Just thinking out loud.

So I have been thinking about what I want to build next, now that the boat is done. Some ideas were lt1/lsx s10, and so fourth. But I like the idea of a Catera with a LT1 or LQ4. It is basicly a 4 door version of the 04-06 GTO. In Holden form it has had both the LT1, and the LS1. What do you guy think? Any major problems that a v8/6speed won't address other than the rear end?

For what it'd cost to build it, buy a used GTO.

toomanytoyz wrote:

For what it'd cost to build it, buy a used GTO.

Where is the fun in that?

There's a lot of fun in that... And a lot less bleeding and swearing.

But... I'm one of the few who love those Goats.

Bill, I have had the same idea for a years now...... How sweet would it be to hit import nights in a duck with a V8

No caddy badges, blacked out , quiet little sleeper........

I kind of thought the Catera got a bad rap because of the whole marketing theme that made not one iota of sense. I haven't seen them on the road much at all and have seen them in junkyards, but I've heard they had a problem with the timing belt causing the engines to grenade in them...and since the engine was made in Europe (England I think), people usually just junked them due to the cost? I bet you could get one with a blown motor for next to nothing...

I'm wondering what parts in the underpinnings are the same as the GTO...maybe all the brakes and stuff could be swapped over too?

Good reads

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/778988-ls1-into-cadillac-catera-56k-death-4.html

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=24348

http://ls1tech.com/forums/conversions-hybrids/1583454-6-0lq4-4l80e-catera.html

http://www.ls1gto.com/forums/showthread.php?t=205008

Matt Trakker wrote:

I kind of thought the Catera got a bad rap because of the whole marketing theme that made not one iota of sense. I haven't seen them on the road much at all and have seen them in junkyards, but I've heard they had a problem with the timing belt causing the engines to grenade in them...and since the engine was made in Europe (England I think), people usually just junked them due to the cost? I bet you could get one with a blown motor for next to nothing...

I'm wondering what parts in the underpinnings are the same as the GTO...maybe all the brakes and stuff could be swapped over too?

The Catera got a bad rap because it's a total piece of crap! JMHO

It's a crappy OPEL cadet, very little in common with the usual Holden's.

I'm a total GM guy, BUT EFF THAT CAR!

Please pick anything else............

LOL. Like a B-body?

Option A : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3761800594.html

Option B : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3765438172.html

Option C :http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3803247027.html

Option D : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3808595715.html

Plenty more, jus sayin

toomanytoyz wrote:

There's a lot of fun in that... And a lot less bleeding and swearing.

But... I'm one of the few who love those Goats.

I thought I was alone here! There's a red one at some dealership right outside of Concord...I so want every time I see it.

V8Killer wrote:

Option A : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3761800594.html

Option B : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3765438172.html

Option C :http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3803247027.html

Option D : http://nh.craigslist.org/cto/3808595715.html

Plenty more, jus sayin

VEGA! HELL YEAH!

V8Killer wrote:

The Catera got a bad rap because it's a total piece of crap! JMHO

It's a crappy OPEL cadet, very little in common with the usual Holden's.

I'm a total GM guy, BUT EFF THAT CAR!

Please pick anything else............

So tell me how you really feel.

I think the GTO, and Catera share all underpinnings. At least location and design. I am sure diffy, brakes, bars, springs, and struts are specific to GTO, but will bolt into a Catera. The engine going south is one of the reasons I was thinking of one. I figure I can pick one up for next to nothing. Get a v8 harness, motor mounts, radiator and go to town.

V8Killer wrote:

1984twodoor wrote:

VEGA! HELL YEAH!

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Part of me wants a stock looking cosworth with a fire breathing turbo eco tech

Actually, a Vega with a turbo Ecotech/6speed from a Pontiac Solstice would be cool too. Or I can just find a rust free 9C1 to dump an LQ4/6speed into.

LSX into that Vega wagon would be stupidly awesome.

IMPALADAKID wrote:

Actually, a Vega with a turbo Ecotech/6speed from a Pontiac Solstice would be cool too. Or I can just find a rust free 9C1 to dump an LQ4/6speed into.

Yes it would be!

About that 9C1, I know this car with car ADD who might sell one soon... I think he lives in New Hampshire

Go with a B-body Billy. You've been without one for long enough. lol

Matt Trakker wrote:

Go with a B-body Billy. You've been without one for long enough. lol

I probably will. Just want to find a rust free 9c1, and dump a LQ4/6 speed into it.

Sorry, mine is... uh... spoken for.

Billy, go get that nice, straight coupe on CL in Salem! DO IT!

But it's not a 9c1 Bill!


You could always just get it, drop the motor in, then "9c1" like Jim. Or "Crovo" it.


That car really has Billy written all over it in magic marker.

toomanytoyz wrote:

Sorry, mine is... uh... spoken for.

Damn secret society. I have been shunned.

From what I've heard.....your lucky....

Plus....thats "protected" not shunned...

IMPALADAKID wrote:

toomanytoyz wrote:

Sorry, mine is... uh... spoken for.

Damn secret society. I have been shunned.

Not me........

toomanytoyz wrote:

Sorry, mine is... uh... spoken for.

Are you sure?

So I made my decision. I am going to build a S-10 or S-15 with a 6.0/4L80E or a 6 speed. It has been done before. I found this page
S10/V8 CONVERSION

Sweet!

I saw my old S10 in Amherst yesterday driving down 101A, actually!

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Nice. I fully support this decision, and wish you luck in future endeavors. Wicked awesome kehd.

I like those ZQ8(?) wheels on the maroon one in the video...

I too fully support this decision, especially if you are able to get a running truck you can pimp around in while you collect parts.

Good call

good choice on the S10. Cadillac only produced the catera (the caddy that zigs) from 1997-2001
Pontiac produced the GTO 2004-2006. Even though they share the same "V" platform I don't think they share much of anything. Parts wize catera's sucked to get replacement stuff.

Yes Yes Yes!!!!!!

toomanytoyz wrote:

Sweet!

I saw my old S10 in Amherst yesterday driving down 101A, actually!

I think the chances of you seeing your old "something" driving anywhere in new england , are pretty good,.

Nick

Does this engine bay look familiar?

Chevy 6.0 LQ4 18k Miles - $900 (Tewksbury, MA)
http://boston.craigslist.org/nwb/pts/3825140685.html

GasTT wrote:

Does this engine bay look familiar?

Anybody can drive in the rain with wipers......... , just gotta go fast enough