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Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise Empty
PostSubject: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 10:23 am

I took the wagon out today and noticed the car pulls to the left quite a bit and I hear a clunking noise and I'm almost positive it's coming from the rear end. Vague... I know. Maybe finally time to R&R my rear end?
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 11:18 am

"I hear a clunking noise" is hard to diagnose
Can you be a little more descriptive?
At speed / on throttle / off throttle....????
I doubt the rear has anything to do with pulling (unless you have a real flat tire)
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 11:27 am

sdstick wrote:
"I hear a clunking noise" is hard to diagnose
Can you be a little more descriptive?
At speed / on throttle / off throttle....????

On acceleration and throttle. Also slightly when turning.

sdstick wrote:
I doubt the rear has anything to do with pulling (unless you have a real flat tire)

That's what I thought. But i've had to do a pinion gear for a while and I thought it may have finally just given up Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 11:30 am

One good thing, it's running!
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 11:37 am

silverfox103 wrote:
One good thing, it's running!

True! I've been debating just taking it off the road for the winter so I can do most of the things that need to be done. Pinion seal, cluster, etc. Plus it'll keep the salt and crap off.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 12:27 pm

Elaborate..........come on.......use your words...... Razz
So acceleration
When you step on it, it clunks once? or???
Throttle?
anything over neutral is acceleration.
anything under neutral is deacceleration
so???? your trying to say what? it clunks once? or???
Turning?
Both directions?
One direction?
From a stop?
any speed?
Have you put it in neutral to see if it does it then?
Have you hit the brakes to see if it does it then
Are the u-joints good?
Have you jacked it up & checked axial play on each side?
If I spend any more time with you, people are gonna start talking.... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 12:58 pm

If it was a pinion gear you'd know it. I had one start to go, then it went. Truck didn't move.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 7:18 pm

sdstick wrote:
Elaborate..........come on.......use your words...... Razz

I...ehhh....ummm...errr VROOM! Laughing


sdstick wrote:
So acceleration
When you step on it, it clunks once? or???
Throttle?
anything over neutral is acceleration.
anything under neutral is deacceleration
so???? your trying to say what? it clunks once? or???
Turning?
Both directions?
One direction?
From a stop?
any speed?

The best description I can give you is I noticed it most while I was accelerating and turning left. It also clunked intermittently while moving straight @ 40mph.

sdstick wrote:
Have you put it in neutral to see if it does it then?

It does not.

sdstick wrote:
Have you hit the brakes to see if it does it then

It does not

sdstick wrote:
Are the u-joints good?

No clue, honestly.

sdstick wrote:
Have you jacked it up & checked axial play on each side?

Not yet.

sdstick wrote:
If I spend any more time with you, people are gonna start talking.... Laughing

I think they're beginning to suspect..... Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 8:19 pm

If it clunks when you hit the gas, and also when downshifting it could quite possibly be the u joints.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 8:22 pm

GasTT wrote:
If it clunks when you hit the gas, and also when downshifting it could quite possibly be the u joints.

But would that cause a pretty heavy pull to the left?
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 8:38 pm

Absolutely not. Is the clunk noise related to this pulling you speak of?
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 8:41 pm

Better check your RCA's
Make sure your tires are equally spaced on the R & L fenders
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 8:49 pm

GasTT wrote:
Absolutely not. Is the clunk noise related to this pulling you speak of?

I would guess so. Both started today.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 21, 2011 9:54 pm

sdstick wrote:

If I spend any more time with you, people are gonna start talking.... Laughing

Steve, look at it this way, if it wasn't for the Cadet and his problems, you would have 3 posts, instead of 1900.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 28, 2011 9:53 am

Found the issue. Rolling Eyes

One of my tires has a pretty big indentation, like a reverse bubble...

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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 28, 2011 10:50 am

I just had that same issue on my wagon, what size tire do you need?
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyMon Nov 28, 2011 10:58 am

Ironfistdog wrote:
I just had that same issue on my wagon, what size tire do you need?

225/75 preferably. Unless you have two of the same size so I can put both up front...
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 5:01 pm

*bump*

Still had the pulling issue after I swapped tires. Took it to get an alignment/ steering inspection. Turns out the idiots (read NOT ME) who put the brakes in before I bought the car sheared off the left bleeder valve AND pinched the hose to the frame so those need to be replaced. Also come to find I have a worn left inner tie rod and idler arm. So this weekend if we get some more nice weather we're going to crank all that out.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 7:40 pm

Idler is super easy, 2 bolts. Do yourself a favor and soak the inner tie rod and adjusting sleeve with some pb blaster the day before.. Eyeball it close and get it aligned right after! Toe is a killer. Get the alignment printout of before and after, your pull could be cause by Caster. Typically, you should have half a degree less of caster to the left to compensate for road crown.. -Paul
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 7:44 pm

96Brougham wrote:
Idler is super easy, 2 bolts. Do yourself a favor and soak the inner tie rod and adjusting sleeve with some pb blaster the day before.. Eyeball it close and get it aligned right after! Toe is a killer. Get the alignment printout of before and after, your pull could be cause by Caster. Typically, you should have half a degree less of caster to the left to compensate for road crown.. -Paul

Thanks for the heads up Paul. I have the FSM alignment specs. I'm going to bring those with me to the shop. Probably going to do the whole steering setup since I bought the parts about 2 months ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise   Car Pulls To The Left/Clunking Noise EmptyTue Jan 10, 2012 9:10 pm

96Brougham wrote:
Idler is super easy, 2 bolts. Do yourself a favor and soak the inner tie rod and adjusting sleeve with some pb blaster the day before.. Eyeball it close and get it aligned right after! Toe is a killer. Get the alignment printout of before and after, your pull could be cause by Caster. Typically, you should have half a degree less of caster to the left to compensate for road crown.. -Paul

I align 'em straight up. I spend a lot of time in the left hand lane. Smile Also soak the cross shaft bolts, if you're lucky they'll adjust the shims. Fishah posted some alignment specs recently.
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