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 Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette

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GasTT



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PostSubject: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 4:58 am

The A/C clutch is GONE in my Silhouette. The van has about 130 on it. I want to replace the compressor. Besides the compressor what else should I look at replacing, if anything? The whole system worked perfect until the clutch went. I don't want to just change the clutch and take a chance of the compressor blowing a week later so I want to do it now. Should the accumulator be changed? I hope not because my van has 2 of them and that will probably get costly. But, I NEED my personal daily driver back and I need my A/C. I am sick of sharing my Olds 88 with my girl. Hit me with some advice/suggestions.

BTW, I WILL NOT use any junk yard parts for my A/C fix that is out of the question.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:16 am

If you refuse to run used parts then expect to pay a small fortune to get it fixed. Air conditioning components are generally pretty pricy. Plus all you can buy now are reconditioned parts that were rebuilt in mexico by little kids Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 5:30 am

I am not particularly worried about cost. I will pay for quality. Rock Auto is showing new GM compressors on the $300 range.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:05 am

Tim

If you had no leaks and the AC worked good, I don't think you need to replace any other parts. If you bring it to a place to be recharged they can dye test it for leaks. Then if there is a problem replace what is needed.

Just last week I had to replace the condensor and accumulator with a recharge was just south of $500 on my Grand Marquis.

Tom
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 7:25 am

Thanks Tom, sounds good. There is a place a few houses down from mine that specializes in A/C systems. I will have them charge it up for me after I swap the compressor.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:01 am

you will need a new drier and orifice tube with a compressor change,I got all my stuff here

http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=01
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 10:32 am

My van has 2 driers so I should replace both of them?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 12, 2010 11:00 am

yes their cheap $20 ? each
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:13 am

did you buy a compressor from them? What does the orifice tube do and where is it located?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:17 am

yes I got a new compressor from them, the orifice tube is a filter and it is in one of the hard lines
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:20 am

Was it their reman compressor? How long have you had it?

So from what I gather, I need:

- Compressor with clutch

- 2 driers

- orifice tube

Anything else? Seals or something? Should I pay someone to evacuate the system or just let it loose.......
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:33 am

it was a new compressor that I put on 2 years ago. do it yourself plus get an o-ring kit , when you find the orifice tube if it has alot of metal on it you will need the condeser & evaporator flushed
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:42 am

Thanks bobby. I think I am going to go with the people you suggested.

Going to get:

NEW compressor with clutch


Accumulator


Orifice tube


O-Ring kit


I called GM parts dept. they said I only have 1 accumulator. It is 2 evaporators that I have.

Everything look ok?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:46 am

alot of the guys on the Impala forum have use them Very Happy


http://www.ackits.com/c/BlackDeath/Auto+AC+Compressor+Failure+%28Black+Death%29.html
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:48 am

Too bad your not going with used parts since you could strip the Toronado of all it's a/c if you wanted. Course it has a leak in it somewhere Rolling Eyes
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:53 am

The compressor itself I think is fine. The clutch is what went but I can't see myself having a new clutch installed on a compressor with 120k+ on it which is why I am replacing it.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Tue Jul 13, 2010 8:57 am

GasTT wrote:
The compressor itself I think is fine. The clutch is what went but I can't see myself having a new clutch installed on a compressor with 120k+ on it which is why I am replacing it.

sounds good to me Timmy
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:59 am

Not having any luck with ACkits. They charged me $900 for a $300 order and then only credited me back $300. I called them and they are basically saying they don't owe me the other $300. I called my bank, now my bank has to send them a dispute form and I have to wait and wait and wait for my $300. Good thing I had the money in my account.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Mon Jul 19, 2010 8:08 am

sorry to hear you had problems with them Timmy but I would never use my debt card on the internet What a Face

go to their forum and give them bad feedback
http://www.autoacforum.com/
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:45 am

The money was returned and I received my items in a timely manner. I never did go leave them bad feedback and I'm glad I didn't. Everything is installed now and working excellent. My van is SUPER quiet now. Thanks for the recommendation Bobby. It saved me a bit of cash as I was about to order a GM unit from Rockauto for 300+. My whole order from ackits was around 300 TOTAL. I paid only 150 to have everything installed and the system charged. I just have 1 more problem to track down. While my old compressor was all messed up it blew the fuse for it and I cannot find it. The mechanic had to jump the relay to charge the system. Everything is working but that damn fuse that even the GM dealer I went to cant find.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:52 am

On most of the ones I've seen there's a fuse inside the car for the climate controls, and theres a curcuit breaker in the aux fuse panel under the hood. It's possible that the breaker is bad. Either that or the relay itself isn't switching like it should.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:54 am

The relay works perfect. The Idle even kicks up high but the compressor is not engaging. The fuse is no good and I can't locate it. I went to the GM dealer, had the parts counter guy AND a GM tech scratching their heads. "Our computer only goes back to '98".
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:55 am

thats good you got all your money back Timmy
http://www.goldsswagon.com/diagrams/wiringindex.htm
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 8:59 am

Bring it by on a day off and I'll help you dig through and track it down.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:32 am

mean ss wrote:
thats good you got all your money back Timmy
http://www.goldsswagon.com/diagrams/wiringindex.htm

Bobby, this was for my 1994 Oldsmobile Silhouette. Thanks though.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:33 am

bammax wrote:
Bring it by on a day off and I'll help you dig through and track it down.

I am unemployed so everyday is my day off when is good for you? I NEED MY AC NOW.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:33 am

oops Sleep
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:35 am

I am however going to use those diagrams to track down the electrical AC problem in my Caprice. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Sat Jul 24, 2010 10:54 am

I'm free most days since I don't work. I do have to run Laura to and from work so any other time is open. I have time Monday and Wed-Fri. Just a matter of how late in the day that free time is.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Wed Nov 24, 2010 7:15 pm

mean ss wrote:
you will need a new drier and orifice tube with a compressor change,I got all my stuff here

http://www.ackits.com/merchant.mvc?Screen=SFNT&Store_Code=01

Hi I know this is an old thread but I need to know about auto parts especially with this A/C Orifice Tube? What does this thing do in the car? Actually I need to buy one and I found a store but of course before buying this item I need to know what does it do inside the car?
I appreciate If someone could answer me..Thanks!


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PostSubject: Re: Need some A/C compressor advice for my 3800 Silhouette   Wed Nov 24, 2010 8:20 pm

AC kits (Arizona Mobile Air) hosts an AC forum.
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