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Matt Trakker



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PostSubject: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 12:21 am

What's everyone use? I used to use the Delco ones, but lately they've looked a little chintzy to me. Still use them here and there but I usually get the basic Purolator ones now as they say made in USA and appear more solid and sturdily made. I also used to use the Wal-Mart Super Tech filters, because they were the same exact Champion Labs filters as the K&N and Mobil 1 filters. Still get them once in a while too.

However, today I went to get two Purolator L1513 ones for the Caprice and the Impala. I guess they used to have a longer one called the 20049 that has been phased out. The new one does look kinda short and stubby. When I went to the register, they tried to charge me 8 bucks a piece for the filters! Turned out to be a mistake because the shelf said 3.59 or something like that. But, the manager said they just went up on the prices for the Purolators. What the F? 8 bucks for an oil filter!?!?!?!

I have read that you can take the filter for a 2wd V8 Chevy truck application and use it on a Caprice, and that filter will be longer. Anyone here do this?

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mega



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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 6:20 am

8 bucks for a filter.. damn. even the K@n ones arent over 6 bucks. but i still stick with fram tough gaurd ones. they seem to have decent strength, and keep the oil cleaner and there about 4 bucks. not to sure on what longer filter you need cause i know on my box caprice i could use 2 different filters a short one or a long one. before was a pf30 and a pf35 i belive 30 was the shorty
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 7:40 am

Mega, hate to break the bad news to you but Fram filters are considered the worst filters by most auto guys.

Matt is correct Super Tech filters are rated very good, if I remember correctly NAPA gold filters were very highly rated.

Check out this website: http://www.bobistheoilguy.com/cms/

Tom C.
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mega



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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 9:20 am

really cause ive used those walmart tech ones and the last 3 all leaked on me gasket looked good was tight.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 3:01 pm

I've been using wix filters for a few years. Not sure about your question but I know that there are short and tall filters for a sbc.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 3:47 pm

GasTT wrote:
I've been using wix filters for a few years. Not sure about your question but I know that there are short and tall filters for a sbc.

I'll second Wix. Bosch is also a good filter (imo) I *think* the Bosch one is a bit longer than the one that was on the car when I got it.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 3:53 pm

Yeah I was just wondering if people knew THE readily available longer filter for a Chevy V8- I just didn't know if the LT1s used the same filter as the older V8s did, if the threads were different where it screws on or anything like that. I will probably try the 2wd truck application filter next time.

Whenever I go to Wal Mart I see Fram and don't want one, but it's like they try to force you to buy it because they never seem to have the store brand one in my application. Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 7:58 pm

If your car is a Camaro you can use a filter from the older V8 trucks. I think the B-body filter is smaller in diameter.

Camaro LT1
M1-202 Short
M1-302 Long

I think the K&N filters are both a little bigger.

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 8:47 pm

Matt, I was flipping thru my Jegs catalog and happened to turn to the oil filter section. Under the K&N filters it lists the following for GM cars:

p/n 599-hp-2002: Chevy 1963-06 SHORT
p/n 599-hp-3002: Chevy 1967-02 LONG

Maybe the -3002 is the longer filter you were looking for?

Just googled the numbers heres the 3002:


And the 2002:


So looks like the 3002 is the larger of them.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Mon May 02, 2011 11:26 pm

I figured out what was screwing me up- The LT1 cars use a PF52, which is a small filter like what my Blazer uses because the filter on the truck is in tight quarters up above the frt. driveshaft. My Caprice uses the older style PF454 Delco filters and equivalent. I always assumed they both used the same filter!

I do know that the filter that fits my 93 is the same filter as my 74, it's bigger in diameter than a PF52 for sure. So maybe this means I can put a longer filter of the same diameter on...

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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Tue May 03, 2011 5:52 am

m1-302 is the BIG mobil filter i run on my car.
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Tue May 03, 2011 7:21 am

rock auto shows only one for it for some reason but its a wix and numbers are 51069 . this filter is a repro of the original and is almost 30 bucks wow
http://store.bowtiesupply.com/697071727374impalav8sbbboilfilteracpf-25.aspx
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PostSubject: Re: Oil Filters - longer one we can use?   Tue May 03, 2011 4:52 pm

I run the older PF52 Delcos on my LT1s and my 3800. The Advance near me usually has the old design one in stock, so I hoard them when I find them. The newer design looks identical to the supertech ones, but comes at a $1 premium for a blue paint job.
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