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PostSubject: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 9:04 am

Fred on LongRoof said it's probably coming from the side window, roof seam or possibly the vent window...
there's about 3 gallons of water in my driver fender and another half a gallon in the plastic fender tray/cupholder.

boy, am I glad I didn't install my amp and sub in there yet.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 9:48 am

Yeah, pretty much anyone who owns one. Unplug the drain holes. Live with it. Lol.

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 9:50 am

the drain holes in the fender you mean?
ugh, guess my amp isn't going in the fender well...
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 12:41 pm


Yup, the joy of a wagon Laughing

I don't think there is anything in the back that DOES'NT leak..... Mad
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 12:42 pm

great...

I HATE water... if there's one thing that keeps me up at night or wakes me in a cold sweat, it's water.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 1:43 pm

where the hell is the fender drain hole?
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 2:07 pm

Should be under the Spare. Unless somebody did some patching down there. In that case, drill.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 2:09 pm

SPCS wrote:
Should be under the Spare. Unless somebody did some patching down there. In that case, drill.

Sorry, driver side, not passenger
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:19 pm

If the wagons like the sedan, there's a little 1" round knockout ( not knocked out at all) 1/2 way between the rear wheel & the bumper.
From underneath look at the vertical sheetmetal.

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:20 pm

someone mentioned the drain being 'clogged'
I assumed there was a hole already there. The car was resprayed at one point and I'm wondering if it got sprayed over which clogged it
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:22 pm

Nah....probably not....drill thru & dodge the stream

Crovo calls them drain holes...cuz....that 's what he makes them Arrow

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:24 pm

I'll have to buy some rust inhibitor and primer if I'm drilling through the rear fenders... last thing I want is my rust free wagon to turn into a rot basket
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:25 pm

Maybe there's a way to check with a hose, starting down low and moving up, to see where the water is coming in, then use some sealant to stop the leak?
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:28 pm

I'll use my ultrasonic tester when the shop opens up to find it, but it sounds like a pain in the balls to fix. apparently I have to remove the headliner
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 3:31 pm

Thats 15yrs worth in there.
Drill the hole & fugetaboudit

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 5:12 pm

in what where?
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 5:48 pm

15 years worth of leaking, collecting, evaporating etc.
If you give it a place to go, hit it with undercoat &....just drive.

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 7:06 pm

I sucked it all up with a shop vac. Gonna let it dry first. Only about a gallon.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 7:11 pm

Drill it. Oil it. Done.

It leaks from the roof rack, roof cross bars, side windows, vent windows and probably the vista roof doesn't leak. They all come from the factory that way. Boo.

Mine are rotted from the inside out on the marshmallow cuz I didn't do that. Sad

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 7:18 pm

Is this thread not covered in wagon ownership 101..... scratch
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 7:22 pm

Just a reminder from the March 18th Mod Day -- check your rear wheel wells Smile

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Fri May 04, 2012 8:40 pm

Thankfully mine are still solid.

Thankfully I also have an entire PS wheel wheel in the garage.

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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sat May 05, 2012 6:26 am

I'll send you a bucket of Germany's own Mike Sanders Hohlraumfett, if you're willing to cover the shipping... Very Happy

http://www.mike-sander.de/

After that, you'll be able to drive and park your car underwater submarine-style if you have to and not worry about rust ever again.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sat May 05, 2012 7:11 am

toomanytoyz wrote:
Drill it. Oil it. Done.

It leaks from the roof rack, roof cross bars, side windows, vent windows and probably the vista roof doesn't leak. They all come from the factory that way. Boo.

Mine are rotted from the inside out on the marshmallow cuz I didn't do that. Sad

This.

My old blue 96 RMW, the super clean NC car, was filled with water in the drivers rear. Drilled a small hole, problem solved.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sat May 05, 2012 9:23 am

96Brougham wrote:
toomanytoyz wrote:
Drill it. Oil it. Done.

It leaks from the roof rack, roof cross bars, side windows, vent windows and probably the vista roof doesn't leak. They all come from the factory that way. Boo.

Mine are rotted from the inside out on the marshmallow cuz I didn't do that. Sad

This.

My old blue 96 RMW, the super clean NC car, was filled with water in the drivers rear. Drilled a small hole, problem solved.

I remember when you did that at Doug's. Terror filled my eyes. Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 9:10 pm

drilled a 1/4" hole, sprayed both sides with bedliner...

voila
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 9:15 pm

chapel wrote:
drilled a 1/4" hole, sprayed both sides with bedliner...

voila

Hope you properly dried the fenders, and sanded any rust before you did that or else you just painted over all that moisture.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 9:17 pm

yeah... I... um... wiped it with a paper towel a bit on both ends...

but there was no rust to start with.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 9:26 pm

chapel wrote:
yeah... I... um... wiped it with a paper towel a bit on both ends...

but there was no rust to start with.


Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 9:29 pm

yeah, I was planning on doing it again next week anyway...
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 10:05 pm

chapel wrote:
yeah, I was planning on doing it again next week anyway...

Arrow Much better!

I would strip all of that off, dry it off very extensively undercoat it then oil it every oil change. Less waste oil to deal with that way too! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 10:29 pm

I mean, it's just a 1/4" hole... I was just planning on filing the hole back again to bare metal and spraying it again after drying it properly.

There was no rust or corrosion at all in the inner fender.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:08 pm

chapel wrote:
I mean, it's just a 1/4" hole... I was just planning on filing the hole back again to bare metal and spraying it again after drying it properly.

There was no rust or corrosion at all in the inner fender.

No rust at all is all well and good until you undercoat something with moisture trapped underneath it. I would use some POR-15 or SEM rust shield or something first then some undercoating.


I just don't know why the factory didn't have a proper drain hole in there scratch
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:14 pm

oh right, I see what you mean...
crap, now you got me worried about the areas I blasted just for the hell of it.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:41 pm

chapel wrote:
oh right, I see what you mean...
crap, now you got me worried about the areas I blasted just for the hell of it.

Yeah that week of rain wont help either. Scrape that crap off and really treat it well or that Carolina car will look like a Connecticut car in no time.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:43 pm

crap... this stuff isn't going to be easy to scrape off
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:46 pm

chapel wrote:
crap... this stuff isn't going to be easy to scrape off

Wire wheel it, if that fails. Heat gun and a paint scrapper. None of that stuff breathes at all so anything under it will just eat the other way out. Kind of like when Rusty Jones wasn't applied right.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Sun May 06, 2012 11:49 pm

that's what I was thinking... ugh, what a mess.

I just wanted to get that water out and a drain drilled before this weeks rain.
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PostSubject: Re: anyone ever have their rear fender fill with water (wagons)   Mon May 07, 2012 12:52 am

chapel wrote:
that's what I was thinking... ugh, what a mess.

I just wanted to get that water out and a drain drilled before this weeks rain.

It will certainly help with that, drain is better than no drain! You just don't want to leave that moisture under there for TOOO long. You can let it slide a bit until we finish this false April and actually get into May Rolling Eyes and its dries that crap up. But remember that rust doesn't sleep!
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