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PostSubject: bump stop question   Sat Apr 25, 2009 5:31 pm

I am installing Hotchkis springs in the banana boat should I use the bump stops that came in the kit or ZQ8 bump stops? I have both. Thanks
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Mon Apr 27, 2009 10:29 pm

cmccabe wrote:
I am installing Hotchkis springs in the banana boat should I use the bump stops that came in the kit or ZQ8 bump stops? I have both. Thanks
I guess I will chime in here. I was hoping someone with more knowledge would have by now.

The Hotchkis bump stops are black rubber and shaped like a bullet. They are fine to use with the springs. I know the ZQ8 stops almost hit the frame of my 94 ss, while they had more room in my 95 9c1. I would say they will hit with the lowerer springs, but that may be ok from what I have read. Not to sure. I would try them both and see which feels better when you get the LT1 banana running.
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Mon Apr 27, 2009 11:02 pm

Hotchkis bumpstops will work just fine.

The ZQ8 bumpstops will simply make the ride less harsh when the car bottoms out on the bumpstops.

The ZQ8's will need to be cut to make them the correct height, but they definately make a big difference in daily driving.
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Tue Apr 28, 2009 5:03 pm

I had the ZQ8's on my caddy with the Hotchkis springs. I did not cut them. They totally got rid of the nose-dive-under-braking problem I was having. I vote for the ZQ8's.

In fact, order me two sets, too. Please. Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:36 pm

Got the front end back together, and brakes all installed. Thoes Hotchkis springs are stiff. I tried to use the spring compressor and really couldn't. I installed the hotchkis bumpstops for now. I figured I could try them for a while and see what I like better.

Thanks for all of your input.
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:08 pm

Crovo, your caddy wasn't resting on the bumpstops?
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Tue Apr 28, 2009 8:40 pm

White93ltz wrote:
Crovo, your caddy wasn't resting on the bumpstops?

It was. They were barely touching. That's how those ZQ8's are supposed to work.

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:51 am

BS. ZQ8's were not touching the frame on a S10. No way was any car ever designed to have a piece of rubber as the main bump absorption tool.

If the frame is riding on the bumpstops, it completely negates the springs....
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 6:42 am

Seems they like the ZQ8 to touch when using a SOFT comfy (caddu) spring
and you dont really need that with stiffer springs.
So both of you are right.
Its supplementing the existing spring rate so there IS 1 best setup per auto/spring/driving combo.
Good luck trying to find it.
I didnt really like the idea of trimming them did they get messy when trimmed?

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 5:23 pm

Like he said ^^^

It's an active part of the suspension, and not a travel limiter, like the stock stops. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 7:59 pm

I talked a bunch with NavyLifter and Ed Runnion about this and they were both pretty adament that there should be 1/4 to a half inch or clearance between the frame and the ZQ8 bumpstop.

I paid for progressive lowering springs (Vogtland). Resting on the bumpstops make the $200 springs become secondary to a $20 piece of rubber. My lowering springs would no longer be progressive rate, and when the car was on the bumpstops it would have very little travel to absorb bumps and would have difficulty keeping the tires planted on the ground during racing.

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They did not get messy when cut.
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:07 pm

Sometimes I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:10 pm

Sometimes?
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:14 pm

White93ltz wrote:
Sometimes?

LOL!

OK. You got me. I seriously lol'd Smile

lol!

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Wed Apr 29, 2009 8:19 pm

White93ltz wrote:
Sometimes?
This explains so much. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Sun May 03, 2009 9:45 pm

Got the bumpers on it and the SS wheels. I hope to have it running in a couple of weeks[img][/img]



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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Sun May 03, 2009 9:59 pm

Looking good Chris. cheers
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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Sun May 03, 2009 10:26 pm

Woot!

Get in the boat.... Da banana boat...

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PostSubject: Re: bump stop question   Mon May 04, 2009 3:06 am

Wow Cant believe those wheels look good on that car!!!!
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