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cmccabe
Posts: 82
Join date: 2009-04-01
Age: 39
Location: Concord, NH
 | | Subject: bump stop question Sat Apr 25, 2009 10:31 am | |
| I am installing Hotchkis springs in the banana boat should I use the bump stops that came in the kit or ZQ8 bump stops? I have both. Thanks |
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| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Mon Apr 27, 2009 3:29 pm | |
| | cmccabe wrote: | | I am installing Hotchkis springs in the banana boat should I use the bump stops that came in the kit or ZQ8 bump stops? I have both. Thanks |
I guess I will chime in here. I was hoping someone with more knowledge would have by now.
The Hotchkis bump stops are black rubber and shaped like a bullet. They are fine to use with the springs. I know the ZQ8 stops almost hit the frame of my 94 ss, while they had more room in my 95 9c1. I would say they will hit with the lowerer springs, but that may be ok from what I have read. Not to sure. I would try them both and see which feels better when you get the LT1 banana running. |
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Fishah
Posts: 1106
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 25
Location: Chicago, IL
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Mon Apr 27, 2009 4:02 pm | |
| Hotchkis bumpstops will work just fine.
The ZQ8 bumpstops will simply make the ride less harsh when the car bottoms out on the bumpstops.
The ZQ8's will need to be cut to make them the correct height, but they definately make a big difference in daily driving. |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 10:03 am | |
| I had the ZQ8's on my caddy with the Hotchkis springs. I did not cut them. They totally got rid of the nose-dive-under-braking problem I was having. I vote for the ZQ8's. In fact, order me two sets, too. Please.  _________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut  95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!!  |
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cmccabe
Posts: 82
Join date: 2009-04-01
Age: 39
Location: Concord, NH
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:36 am | |
| Got the front end back together, and brakes all installed. Thoes Hotchkis springs are stiff. I tried to use the spring compressor and really couldn't. I installed the hotchkis bumpstops for now. I figured I could try them for a while and see what I like better.
Thanks for all of your input. |
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Fishah
Posts: 1106
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 25
Location: Chicago, IL
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:08 pm | |
| Crovo, your caddy wasn't resting on the bumpstops? |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 1:40 pm | |
| | White93ltz wrote: | | Crovo, your caddy wasn't resting on the bumpstops? |
It was. They were barely touching. That's how those ZQ8's are supposed to work._________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut 95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!! |
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Fishah
Posts: 1106
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 25
Location: Chicago, IL
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 6:51 pm | |
| BS. ZQ8's were not touching the frame on a S10. No way was any car ever designed to have a piece of rubber as the main bump absorption tool.
If the frame is riding on the bumpstops, it completely negates the springs.... |
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sdstick
Posts: 3542
Join date: 2009-03-20
Location: Revere, MA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Tue Apr 28, 2009 11:42 pm | |
| Seems they like the ZQ8 to touch when using a SOFT comfy (caddu) spring
and you dont really need that with stiffer springs.
So both of you are right.
Its supplementing the existing spring rate so there IS 1 best setup per auto/spring/driving combo.
Good luck trying to find it.
I didnt really like the idea of trimming them did they get messy when trimmed? _________________ Steve  96BBB 28K 3.42 Bolt-ons 95BBB 100K 3.73 CAI stock New DD Assembling now 95 Black WB4 Hole...ee...grail 95BBB 189K 3.08 Old DD Stolen...by Matt.  |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Wed Apr 29, 2009 10:23 am | |
| Like he said ^^^ It's an active part of the suspension, and not a travel limiter, like the stock stops.  _________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut 95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!! |
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Fishah
Posts: 1106
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 25
Location: Chicago, IL
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Wed Apr 29, 2009 12:59 pm | |
| I talked a bunch with NavyLifter and Ed Runnion about this and they were both pretty adament that there should be 1/4 to a half inch or clearance between the frame and the ZQ8 bumpstop.
I paid for progressive lowering springs (Vogtland). Resting on the bumpstops make the $200 springs become secondary to a $20 piece of rubber. My lowering springs would no longer be progressive rate, and when the car was on the bumpstops it would have very little travel to absorb bumps and would have difficulty keeping the tires planted on the ground during racing.
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They did not get messy when cut. |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:07 pm | |
| Sometimes I think you argue just for the sake of arguing. _________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut 95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!! |
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Fishah
Posts: 1106
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 25
Location: Chicago, IL
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:10 pm | |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Wed Apr 29, 2009 1:14 pm | |
| | White93ltz wrote: | | Sometimes? |
LOL!
OK. You got me. I seriously lol'd
 _________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut 95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!! |
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cmccabe
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Join date: 2009-04-01
Age: 39
Location: Concord, NH
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| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Sun May 03, 2009 2:59 pm | |
| Looking good Chris.  |
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toomanytoyz
Club President
Posts: 5914
Join date: 2009-01-20
Age: 36
Location: Sandown, NH USA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Sun May 03, 2009 3:26 pm | |
| Woot!
Get in the boat.... Da banana boat... _________________ Bill "The Verb" Crovo - Resident Car Slut 95 WB4 -The Toasted Marshmallow- Quick and Fat, sorta like it's owner... 00 Sierra 2500 ECSB -The Big Slut- H2's & 33's, TB crank, CAI, Magnaflow, Cowl'd, etc... 95 9C1 -Project AutoX Slut- MAB!!<--Finally!! West coast car, rust free! T56 and suspension mods to come! 94 Fleetwood -The Ill Brougham- Praise the Lowered! Satin Black, red wheels, whitewalls, glasspacks. 'Nuff said. American Ricerwww.badassofne.net "Ooooh! Look! Something shiny!"LOWER IT!!! |
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BoSStonsSS
Posts: 770
Join date: 2009-01-22
Age: 26
Location: BOSTON,MA
| | Subject: Re: bump stop question Sun May 03, 2009 8:06 pm | |
| Wow Cant believe those wheels look good on that car!!!! |
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