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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:32 am | |
| Sweet!
So, when is Brian putting in the cage? | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 04, 2013 8:35 am | |
| looks good! now get that ls power back in ! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 04, 2013 3:24 pm | |
| - V8Killer wrote:
- Sweet!
So, when is Brian putting in the cage? Hes not LOL. If I end up deciding to cage it, Mike Robinson will be doing it...but I think I am going to keep it street friendly for now. - 96slowss wrote:
- looks good! now get that ls power back in !
Working on it man! | |
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tonyc712000
Posts : 126 Join date : 2013-10-04 Location : Ct.
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Oct 06, 2013 10:33 pm | |
| Did I mention that I hate you? UGH That thing looks great. Kidding about the hate BTW! Just jealous...ya bastid! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:03 pm | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:48 am | |
| Great progress!!!
I like the pinstripe idea! | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Oct 12, 2013 1:54 pm | |
| looking good! cant wait to see the motor sitting in the engine bay.. | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:20 pm | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Oct 12, 2013 11:42 pm | |
| - bfurches wrote:
- 96slowss wrote:
- looking good! cant wait to see the motor sitting in the engine bay..
Sure...here ya go!
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First off, quick thanks to Justin for stopping by today. We didn't get much done while he was over, but he threw around some ideas that helped me out! Typical J/k kinda lol That's all sweet progress dude! When you texted me last night I figured it was about doing something fun with that car, 100% better than all my LOFs and rotations this morning/afternoon. Did I mention I was jealous of how complete and finished your car is compared to mine? JERK! Need more free time! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Oct 13, 2013 7:16 pm | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Oct 14, 2013 3:47 pm | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Thu Oct 24, 2013 11:43 pm | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:11 am | |
| Makes me feel lame for having a "downed" car due to a cracked flex plate.
Great work! Keep the ball rolling! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Oct 25, 2013 4:56 pm | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Oct 30, 2013 5:23 pm | |
| The intake has finally arrived! Holley Modular Mid-Ram design. It takes all the features of the taller modular "Hi-Ram" and applies it to the dual 4150 pad manifold I have wanted for a while. Here is the base of the intake, which is actually the cathedral port LSx "Dual Quad" intake. Here is the adapter plenum that allows you to bolt any top from the modular family on. Extremely nice design, and even has a provision for the stock style MAP sensors. In my case, I opted for the single 92mm top. (sorry, I didn't take any pictures of just the top off the intake). It even came complete with billet fuel rails. Being that the base was orignally a carb style intake, the pad slopes in one direction (to compensate for the general factory downward engine angle.) I had to mount the manifold base backwards to gain some clearance at the turbo merge. But being that the base and adapter simply use two 4150 flanges to bolt together, I think I am going to space the combination upwards an additional inch using a pair of nitrous plates. Overall I am extremely happy with the intake, and I think I got pretty lucky with the fit. I really was not expecting it to pull through with the hot-side plumbing. ________________________________________________________________ Valve covers also came in. I wasn't going to go aftermarket...but these things were SOOOO cheap, and I needed something with more room to accommodate the -12an fittings for the breather tank. They seem pretty well built for the money. They did include cheap hardware and gaskets....and they were also a pain in the ass to line up on the heads, but they fit and they look good. The -12s are welded in and ready to go. | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Oct 30, 2013 7:07 pm | |
| Damn, thats some crazy good looking intake porn lol! | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Thu Oct 31, 2013 8:59 am | |
| Some really nice stuff there! So, you staying with the no inner wheel-well thing? | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Thu Oct 31, 2013 3:09 pm | |
| - V8Killer wrote:
- Some really nice stuff there!
So, you staying with the no inner wheel-well thing? I really want to do something, but I am still undecided on how to tackle it! Speaking of which....does anyone have a set of plastic bubble inner fenders I could borrow to try??? _______________________________________________________________ -12 fittings are welded into the covers. Its looking pretty good. ...I need to come up with my inner fender solution before I mount the breather tank (and standalone for the nitrous). | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 01, 2013 7:24 am | |
| where did u get the valve covers? I cant find those for under 3-400 bucks! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:59 pm | |
| - 96slowss wrote:
- where did u get the valve covers? I cant find those for under 3-400 bucks!
eBay. They were 90 shipped lol. the hardware is a joke, but the covers themselves were well built with thick rails. Alignment is kind of a bitch, but for the money, can't go wrong. | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 01, 2013 3:07 pm | |
| - bfurches wrote:
- ...I need to come up with my inner fender solution before I mount the breather tank (and standalone for the nitrous).
I'd trade Methanol injection for the Nitrous on a turbo application all day long, IMO. My T went 11.80 on a stock turbo/stock longblock with pump gas & methanol. My friends T went 11.30's on 60 turbo/stock longblock with pump gas & meth. 27 PSI | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 01, 2013 5:32 pm | |
| - V8Killer wrote:
- bfurches wrote:
- ...I need to come up with my inner fender solution before I mount the breather tank (and standalone for the nitrous).
I'd trade Methanol injection for the Nitrous on a turbo application all day long, IMO.
My T went 11.80 on a stock turbo/stock longblock with pump gas & methanol.
My friends T went 11.30's on 60 turbo/stock longblock with pump gas & meth. 27 PSI Car is without a doubt getting an Alky Control system. The nitrous system would be more then less to spool a massive turbo down the road, and short-term fix my spacing issue....but I corrected that today. I love how mean the intake manifold looks hugging the merge...but it was definitely going to be a heat issue if I were to leave it at that height....not to mention the packaging constraints. My solution was to raise the plenum 1" using 4150 4-hole spacers. This is where I was originally going to stuff the nitrous plates (and possibly utilize it down the road). However, it was more cost effective and efficient to just use the spacers. I also cut back the inlet of the throttle body so the 4"-3" transition can be welded on and v-banded. It also makes the outlet come almost parallel to the ground as opposed to shooting down. I am sure I will fight the IAC steps in tuning a little, but I am confident I can correct them. | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Nov 03, 2013 10:24 pm | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:21 pm | |
| what size wastegate are u running? iam tring to figure out what iam doin | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Nov 04, 2013 5:25 pm | |
| - 96slowss wrote:
- what size wastegate are u running? iam tring to figure out what iam doin
http://www.turboneticsinc.com/node/92 45mm A tial 50mm would cover you as well. | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:41 am | |
| I was thinking 2 38s on each end.. I know the placement of them matter a lot and I don't have a lot of room near the turbo mount | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 08, 2013 7:58 am | |
| - 96slowss wrote:
- I was thinking 2 38s on each end.. I know the placement of them matter a lot and I don't have a lot of room near the turbo mount
haha! Setup like familiar! nah, looking really good man. I think two gates is just excess money (for any decent one). what about running one on top of the merge right where your angle finder is? | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 08, 2013 8:15 am | |
| I gotta say, I'm impressed. That box is a thing of beauty.
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 08, 2013 4:56 pm | |
| they work best when they are in direct flow of the flow coming from the manifolds, that's y iam questioning putting one at a 90 degree
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Nov 08, 2013 6:19 pm | |
| - toomanytoyz wrote:
- I gotta say, I'm impressed. That box is a thing of beauty.
thanks man. lots of time and effort into tho thing. Its finally coming together. - 96slowss wrote:
- they work best when they are in direct flow of the flow coming from the manifolds, that's y iam questioning putting one at a 90 degree
Yes...you are correct. Optimum placement is inline on a straight before a radius....however, in a street application with a modest size turbo....you aren't going to see a problem regulating boost with a quality gate. these vehicles are nothing but compromise at every turn. I would save my money and spend it elsewhere. | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Nov 09, 2013 8:43 pm | |
| The aluminum reducer cone came in. I had it welded to the throttle body and v-banded. It transitions down to 3" (same as my charge pipes). I didnt compensate for the thickness of the v-band and clamp....it is REALLY tight LOL Now I can finish the cold side and start on my fender exit exhaust. Also...huge thanks to Steve for my first non-related motor purchase as of late... (yes...i even stole your picture because I was to lazy to take my own LOL). | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Nov 13, 2013 10:56 am | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:06 am | |
| I cant remember way back (& to lazy to scan back)but....you DO have some flex point in that intake pipe right? | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:19 am | |
| - sdstick wrote:
- I cant remember way back (& to lazy to scan back)but....you DO have some flex point in that intake pipe right?
Umm, why would you need it? The engine is solid mounted | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Nov 13, 2013 11:34 am | |
| Oh ya....forgot about that....flex point is the tires?... Frame is REALLY stiff right?.. | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Nov 13, 2013 3:27 pm | |
| - sdstick wrote:
- Oh ya....forgot about that....flex point is the tires?...
Frame is REALLY stiff right?.. ehh...its not that bad....only the elderly complain about it lol, jk. All jokes aside, its firm, but not unbearable. However...when you hit a pothole or big bump....you know it! | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:03 pm | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sat Nov 16, 2013 10:42 pm | |
| Easily the coolest exhaust system/corner lamp I have ever seen.
That is genius...like shit dude that is so friggin sweet! | |
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96slowss
Posts : 855 Join date : 2010-06-09 Age : 35 Location : Halifax,MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Nov 24, 2013 9:49 pm | |
| anyway to get a height of the intake? tring to find out if I can fit the back of the intake in my car. hood is no issue its the back if the intaketo the wiper cowl because my motor sits back far | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Nov 25, 2013 11:30 am | |
| - bfurches wrote:
...but I think I am going to keep it street friendly for now. Wide open side exit exhaust? (solid body mounts, solid motor mounts, no heat, locked rear end) That sounds kinda track only | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Nov 25, 2013 3:08 pm | |
| - 96slowss wrote:
- anyway to get a height of the intake? tring to find out if I can fit the back of the intake in my car. hood is no issue its the back if the intaketo the wiper cowl because my motor sits back far
My measurement wouldnt be accurate because I have the base of the plenum flipped the opposite way, plus I have 1" spacers. Your best bet is to reference the Holley technical drawing for sizes... http://www.holley.com/data/products/pictures/MidRiseDimensions.jpg - V8Killer wrote:
- bfurches wrote:
...but I think I am going to keep it street friendly for now. Wide open side exit exhaust? (solid body mounts, solid motor mounts, no heat, locked rear end) That sounds kinda track only My exhaust will have a muffler right of the turbo...not wide open. Street car is all in what you are comfortable driving on the street. Some people go out and by Ford GT which is a bare bones, nothing electric, no radio race car and call it a "street car." Same thing with the Viper. If I can register it, insure it, and drive it in nice weather to and from the track...hey it's streetable enough for my liking! _________________________________________________________________________ Draglites are on deck! Waiting on tires for the rears. | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Nov 25, 2013 4:48 pm | |
| _________________________________________________________________________ Draglites are on deck! . . . . . . Ah, I see your Draglites, and match you some Dragstars | |
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bfurches
Posts : 1061 Join date : 2010-04-20 Age : 36 Location : Springfield, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Jan 05, 2014 8:32 pm | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Sun Jan 05, 2014 9:16 pm | |
| Heh, I like the face on that FPR dial. Nice to see some progress being made, looks like it's really coming together and should be a hoot when it's done... get well soon. | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Mon Feb 24, 2014 10:53 pm | |
| What happened to all your pics kehd?? | |
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Sweet Seventy9
Posts : 73 Join date : 2012-03-12 Location : Upstate NY
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Fri Feb 28, 2014 8:12 pm | |
| I stopped by to check out your progress but all the pics are gone. | |
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My LSx Swapped Box Wed Sep 17, 2014 5:35 pm | |
| - Sweet Seventy9 wrote:
- I stopped by to check out your progress but all the pics are gone.
Yes no more pics???? ....and the 4.8 is for sale already......? http://westernmass.craigslist.org/pts/4666943720.html "Up for sale is the 2004 4.8L Long Block from my Turbo Caprice. When I picked up the engine, it had just over 200k miles on it. It was in a fleet van and meticulously maintained. I have always kept up on the oil changes with quality filters and good oil. The motor is stock rotating assembly and cylinder heads. The only changes made have been a Comp Thumpr Camshaft, Trick Flow Pushrods and Brian Tooley Valve Springs. This motor trapped over 122mph in the 1/4 on low boost with a single 70mm turbo. It runs flawlessly. If you are looking for a cheap long block to drop in your car and have some fun, this is it. Or, rob the cam, springs and pushrods out of it for your 6.0 LQ4. No matter how you cut it, this is a smoking deal for an awesome running LSx motor. Great base for your first swap! This sale is for long-block only. -No intake manifold -No oil pan -No valve covers If you need the above excluded items, I have stock pieces I can supply. 800.00 picked up in Indian Orchard" | |
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