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PostSubject: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 6:08 pm

I moved the flooded car into the garage today.

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 6:27 pm

I want an MSP caprice that has 3M tape all over it Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 6:57 pm

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:00 pm

HUH? why?
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:34 pm

1: chop 2: move piller back 3: section car were the x is and turn it into a 2 door!!! your welcome Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:38 pm

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1: chop 2: move piller back 3: section car were the x is and turn it into a 2 door!!! your welcome Laughing
Eye C it now.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:42 pm

O. Cool!!!!
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:43 pm

my VERY rough idea..

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:48 pm

89-95 Ford Thunderbird rear side window. Arrow

I want in on this. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 7:53 pm

There is a guy around here with a 2 door its lime green and it looks like CRAP.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 8:43 pm

Sweet!

And if it doesn't work, you get a 'vert!!!! Very Happy

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 9:06 pm

I was playing with the idea myself a couple years ago. I was going a different route with it though instead of the awkward looking slant post that the t-bird window causes.

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Notice the difference the angle of the post makes from mine to the real one that gets built

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 9:13 pm

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I was playing with the idea myself a couple years ago. I was going a different route with it though instead of the awkward looking slant post that the t-bird window causes.

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Notice the difference the angle of the post makes from mine to the real one that gets built

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I spent an hour looking for the pics and the article with the two door and drop top impalas. How the hell did you find it?
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 9:26 pm

Right click and "save as" Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:15 pm

4 or 5 off the top and 12 out of the middle.

I don't think Thunderbird windows will fit.
I don't know what to use for the rear quarter window or how to do the rear window.
I don't know.
Maybe Bill M. will figure it out when he starts cutting it up. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:20 pm

Plexiglass. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:31 pm

bammax wrote:
Blue Tape Car 2_door10

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4 or 5 off the top and 12 out of the middle.

I don't think Thunderbird windows will fit.
I don't know what to use for the rear quarter window or how to do the rear window.
I don't know.
Maybe Bill M. will figure it out when he starts cutting it up. Smile

Jim The pic above shows how the t-bird window will work. The rear glass had to be laid forward, and the windshild had to be laid back. And where ever they ended up is where the the roof ended up. I think it was two or so inches lower. The trick is to make it look like stock.

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Plexiglass. Smile
Hack! Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:45 pm

That car doesn't look stock to me. Mine looks like a stock setup. Plus it doesn't change the overall length or the roof in any way.

1) Cut the front door down the middle and graft a new center door section in to make it a few inches longer. Same with the window rails and such. The window motor may need to be moved over a bit for the windows to roll down sufficiently.

2) Cut the B pillar out and weld it back in, the appropriate distance back.

3) Section out the center of the rear door and weld the 2 halves back togather, and then weld it shut so that it can be finished smooth.

4) Take the front door glass to a glass place and tell them it needs to be repop'd but extended however many inches.

5) Make a cardboard template of the rear glass opening and have a new piece made from that template. Install it using the stock mounting hardware for the quarters, plus add a couple mounts to the B-pillar side for extra support. (this could be done in plexiglass, which saves cost and weight, since it won't see a window wiper)

6) Paint and pictures and trophies Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:52 pm

I could afford to have curved glass made...
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 10:59 pm

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I could afford to have curved glass made...
The only glass that would have to be made is the door glass. Arrow Might even get away with not changing the angle on the windshield or back glass
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySat Oct 09, 2010 11:17 pm

My version doesn't touch the roof (other than moving the pillar) and in turn doesn't effect the front or rear glass at all. The quarter glass and door glass are the only things to deal with and those are fairly straightforward pieces.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 4:40 am

boojum wrote:
I could afford to have curved glass made...

I meant to say If I could afford curved galss.

IMPALADAKID wrote:
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The only glass that would have to be made is the door glass. Arrow Might even get away with not changing the angle on the windshield or back glass
Smile

bammax wrote:
My version doesn't touch the roof (other than moving the pillar) and in turn doesn't effect the front or rear glass at all. The quarter glass and door glass are the only things to deal with and those are fairly straightforward pieces.

But the side glass is curved.


The roof is getting chopped so I dont think Thunderbird windows will fit. The guy that did the two door said he lengthed the rear deck and that is was a lot of work.

I've said too much already I don't want to jinx a possible project. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 9:02 am

So since you designed one and are so behind your extensive design work, and have the funding and donor vehicle necessary, when are you gonna try to build yours, Brad? Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:00 pm

I can't. My uncle sold his shop last fall and then I sold the car Laughing I was either going 2-door or 4-door no post. He was leaning 2-door because he thought removing the B-pillar would ruin the rigidity of the car in a crash.

By the way Crovo, why not provide some insight or help to make the project easier for him instead of nitpicking me Razz

I'm just trying to provide a way to make the project go smoother to prevent headaches down the line. If you're planning on a chopped top then my method would be even more work than the original plan would be and I'd recomend not following my steps. Either way though plan on getting new glass made. The only other way to do a chop top without cutting glass is to sink the lower portion into the body and that's alot of work.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:03 pm

bammax wrote:
By the way Crovo, why not provide some insight or help to make the project easier for him instead of nitpicking me Razz
Where's the fun in that. Razz

I would start by looking at what rear side window you might use. There maybe something you could use and save from having it custom made. The t-bird rear side was used because of the over all shape went with the car, but you can use whatever you feel works. The other window that comes to mind would be from a 97-03 pontiac grand prix 2 door.


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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:07 pm

On a related note, what kind of mirrors are you going to run on it when it's done? I'd go with something chrome and door mounted, but that's the type of guy I am. Maybe just trim and refit the stock ones?
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:18 pm

I was hoping it would like like this when done:

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:25 pm

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I was hoping it would like like this when done:

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Holy crap! That is a lot of cutting and welding. Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 12:45 pm

two door post cars,. meh,...
Now a 4dr hardtop would be very cool,.

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 2:35 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
I want an MSP caprice that has 3M tape all over it Laughing

How much you got? I'll tape the entire car for the right price. Smile

toomanytoyz wrote:
Sweet!
And if it doesn't work, you get a 'vert!!!! Very Happy

I'll have a pile of scrap if it doesn't work. Smile



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I would start by looking at what rear side window you might use. There maybe something you could use and save from having it custom made. The t-bird rear side was used because of the over all shape went with the car, but you can use whatever you feel works. The other window that comes to mind would be from a 97-03 pontiac grand prix 2 door.

I think you are on the right track. How about a window roughly this size?

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 3:09 pm

Based on the angle and the length I'd say start measuring out some of them f-body windows to see how close they fit. Maybe you could get the measurements from a couple different gens and see if any will be plug and play.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptySun Oct 10, 2010 3:14 pm

That's actually a pretty good idea, Brad. And if a 3rd gen one would work, I bet he knows where to get one cheap. Wink

I vote for T-bird front glass. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 8:55 pm

Hey I sould trace a Camaro window to see what it would look like!
I'm sure they would be cheaper than a Vette window. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 9:03 pm

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Hey I sould trace a Camaro window to see what it would look like!
I'm sure they would be cheaper than a Vette window. Smile

What about Riviera windows?
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 9:09 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
boojum wrote:
Hey I sould trace a Camaro window to see what it would look like!
I'm sure they would be cheaper than a Vette window. Smile

What about Riviera windows?

I think the side glass may be too tall but the Riviera rear window, looks about the right size.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 9:39 pm

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Now a 4dr hardtop would be very cool,.

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I think this in Fleetwood form would be better Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyMon Oct 11, 2010 9:40 pm

I could bring a tracing and measurements of T-bird/cougar front glass to the round-up if you want
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyTue Oct 12, 2010 11:44 pm

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I could bring a tracing and measurements of T-bird/cougar front glass to the round-up if you want

Thanks for the offer but I'm thinking about a shorter window.

I wonder if Chargers have started to turn up at the junkyards yet.


I might have a larger image somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 2:41 pm

So I traced out a 3rd gen camaro window and put it on the car to see how it looked.

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyFri Oct 15, 2010 3:01 pm

Biggest issue with those windows is the way it tapers down at the back. I'm sure it can be made to work though Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 1:48 am

Wow, two years and not even started. Well at least I've managed to collect a few more big more parts. Although I now have to replace some smaller stuff.

I'm working on getting time in a shop with a lift, welder, air tools and more. Who knows maybe some day this pig will fly. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 6:07 am

........ holy dead thread revival....... afro

is the the rare blue interior 9c1 or the cop car with the chip? cheers
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 9:38 am

Mostly blue interior. That's some of the small stuff that I lost. I traded the door panels for some muffler clamps.

It had a cop chip but I swapped it for a Camaro Corvette chip. +1
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 9:48 am

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Hmm, looks like rear windows out of a 95-99 Riviera would work if your going this route.

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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 12:17 pm

Try an 89 Ford T-Bird Super Coupe.

But don't forget to snag that close tolerance Eaton Blower from the donor car!
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PostSubject: Re: Blue Tape Car   Blue Tape Car EmptyThu Sep 27, 2012 1:37 pm

Why does every one doing 2 doors Choose to make the rear window so big?
If you look at a 2 door box or any from the 60's they have alot of c pillar.
Why not make the c pillar closer to a Rms or fwb and reduce the glass to a smaller piece,
If I can get to a paint program today I'll do some cut and paste. To me it's too much glass.
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