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PostSubject: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 12:55 pm

What is the difference in the 94-96 9C1/Impala ss/Civi frames? I have a 94 nice CIVI frame and a 96 9C1 body, what am i getting into using the 94 frame, i plan to use as much 96 equipment as i can, brake ABS and such.
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 1:43 pm

As far as I know the only difference frame wise is for the Fleetwood which is stretched 6 inches and the wagons which are boxed and use a different gas tank. For sedans the frames should be exactly the same between the models and years your looking at.
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 3:36 pm

No, I'm pretty sure the 9C1 frame is thicker in some spots or boxed differently. I'm not exactly sure the differences - I remember the discussion on ISSF a few years ago though.
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 5:11 pm

I am only aware of the changes made for the 94 year in which the frame was altered for the lower ac compressor, but Fisher might be on to something, but I am not sure myself about the stiffer frame in the 9c1.
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:18 pm

My 94 window sticker says something like, H D Frame. Now you got me thinkin! It's home in a folder, I'll have the wife double check.
Go for it Glen, throw that bish together!
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Wed Sep 30, 2009 6:24 pm

I have done a bit of research on this. From what I have read you should be perfectly interchangeable, however the 9C1 frame is a little thicker steel...I believe .10 versus .15 thickness if that sounds right...

I could be off, but I seem to recall something like that.

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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 10:47 am

i plan to beat this bitch hard, hmmm might need to stick to a 9C1 frame
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 12:32 pm

No Moa wrote:
i plan to beat this bitch hard, hmmm might need to stick to a 9C1 frame

That was my thoughts, but keep in mind that the SS had the civilian frame too, from what I read, and people surely beat the bag out of those too...

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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 2:48 pm

I was under the impression that the 9c1/SS frame was HD.
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PostSubject: Re: Frames whats the diff?   Thu Oct 01, 2009 6:28 pm

The 9C1 frames are supposed to be thicker, but the real stiffness comes from the additional body bushings in the front. The civi cars and WX3 didn't use the front 2 (3) sets of body-to-frame bushings. Only the 9C1s and wagons got them. All B-body sedan frames are interchangable... Caprice civi sedan, 9C1, B4U, WX3, Roadmaster sedan.

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