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PostSubject: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 5:01 pm

Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, FRONT 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.


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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 5:26 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.

I have a pair of new(uninstalled) re-man'd calipers & brackets. $120 for the pair

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 5:29 pm

V8Killer wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.

I have a pair of new(uninstalled) re-man'd calipers & brackets. $120 for the pair


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Stupid question... the brackets and calipers will fit in place of the stock hardware from my car correct? Or will I need to mod anything?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 6:40 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
V8Killer wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.

I have a pair of new(uninstalled) re-man'd calipers & brackets. $120 for the pair


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Stupid question... the brackets and calipers will fit in place of the stock hardware from my car correct? Or will I need to mod anything?

You need SS/9C1 backing plates which are the support for the caliper brackets. and the E-brake shoe. Also the stock cable won't work, I believe the front one will but you'll need rear SS cables.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 6:41 pm

1984twodoor wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
V8Killer wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.

I have a pair of new(uninstalled) re-man'd calipers & brackets. $120 for the pair


 Arrow 

Stupid question... the brackets and calipers will fit in place of the stock hardware from my car correct? Or will I need to mod anything?

You need SS/9C1 backing plates which are the support for the caliper brackets. and the E-brake shoe. Also the stock cable won't work, I believe the front one will but you'll need rear SS cables.

For the front brakes?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 7:00 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
V8Killer wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Looking for a set of good, and preferably clean, 9C1 calipers and any hardware I'd need to install them in my wagon. My braking issue is back so I want to install the new hardware I have kicking around.

I have a pair of new(uninstalled) re-man'd calipers & brackets. $120 for the pair


 Arrow 

Stupid question... the brackets and calipers will fit in place of the stock hardware from my car correct? Or will I need to mod anything?

You need SS/9C1 backing plates which are the support for the caliper brackets. and the E-brake shoe. Also the stock cable won't work, I believe the front one will but you'll need rear SS cables.

For the front brakes?

DUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR


Lol oops. But if I said yes would you believe me? BTW Al is thinking like I do also because those are rear calipers in the pic! I'm pretty sure 9C1 and Civi are the same up front!
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 8:05 pm

There is a difference between front civie, and 9c1/9c3. It is the size of the guide pin diameter. If you are using police calipers, you need the bigger pins. The thread diameter is the same however, so no need to replace king pins. So you need calipers, pins, and pads 9c1 specific

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 10:29 pm

Can I get a pic of what a king pin is on our cars???
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 10:38 pm

Yeah I have the pads, I bought 9C1 rotors and pads with the intention of installing them at mod day, only to find out 9C1 pads are bigger.  Embarassed 

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Tue May 13, 2014 11:39 pm

Oops, sorry I have the rears.

I figured you were swapping to discs in the back.  elephant 
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Wed May 14, 2014 10:25 am

V8Killer wrote:
Oops, sorry I have the rears.

I figured you were swapping to discs in the back.  elephant 

Sorry, should have specified. I forgot 9C1's were 4 wheel disc.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Wed May 14, 2014 11:12 pm

Not sure if this helps you, but when I bought my 1A2 I found out someone stuck civi calipers up front when it came time to do brakes (SEO pads wouldn't fit). I picked up a pair of reman SEO calipers at autozone and rolled with it. Couldn't you do the same to your car?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Thu May 15, 2014 10:10 am

95brmw wrote:
 Couldn't you do the same to your car?

I'm not sure. Maybe since your car is a 1A2 it was already prepped for big brakes?

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Thu May 15, 2014 6:35 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
95brmw wrote:
 Couldn't you do the same to your car?

I'm not sure. Maybe since your car is a 1A2 it was already prepped for big brakes?

Rotors are the same 12" vented across the whole car line up front. Calipers, pads, and guide pins are the difference. At least on 91-96 b, and d-bodys with 5x5" bolt circle. Wagon, caprice sedan, roadmaster, impala ss, fleetwood.

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Thu May 15, 2014 9:55 pm

The last caliper I bought from Autozone (civilian) came with new guide pins and the clip for the pads, not bad for $12. The 9C1 spec ones are $32, might be worth picking one up to see if it fits.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 10:52 am

Nothing listed for 91-93. '94 has two options, With HD brake, and without. I'm assuming HD brakes is 9C1/9C3. That said, the calipers are $56 each now.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 11:08 am

Good info in this thread. Al, if you read this I'll buy those rear calipers and brackets from you. I should have when I got the rear end.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 11:17 am

MASShole9C1 wrote:
Good info in this thread. Al, if you read this I'll buy those rear calipers and brackets from you.

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 12:05 pm

That doesn't sound right, Rockauto lists the regular calipers fitting 78-96 and the HD ones fitting 93-96 Caprice/SS
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 1:23 pm

MASShole9C1 wrote:
Good info in this thread. Al, if you read this I'll buy those rear calipers and brackets from you. I should have when I got the rear end.

No problem. They are yours  Cool 
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Fri May 16, 2014 1:43 pm

Thanks Al. Hopefully I can grab them next time I see you.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sat May 17, 2014 4:59 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
Nothing listed for 91-93. '94 has two options, With HD brake, and without. I'm assuming HD brakes is 9C1/9C3. That said, the calipers are $56 each now.

Justin, You might want to consider the 9C1 front caliper with the SILICONE boot from AutoZone.  I think I paid $10 or $20 more but will last longer and take the heat. And they DO come with new pins.  Something to think about.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sat May 17, 2014 6:49 pm

The downside to getting these from Autozone or Rockauto is that I'm going to get nailed on the core charges since I won't have calipers to give back. Also, call me paranoid but I fear I'll buy the reman's and end up getting a civi caliper.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sat May 17, 2014 9:41 pm

Give your civi's in return. They won't even know the difference! cheers 
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 12:19 am

Cadet57 wrote:
The downside to getting these from Autozone or Rockauto is that I'm going to get nailed on the core charges since I won't have calipers to give back. Also, call me paranoid but I fear I'll buy the reman's and end up getting a civi caliper.

Tomz9C1 wrote:
Give your civi's in return. They won't even know the difference! cheers 

Damn, nail on the head for the revolving cycle! This is exactly why you should worry Justin! We all do it that's the bad part...  Surprised 

Who knows if that warranty "vette" starter will actually be a Corvette P/N after it is re-manufactured!
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 10:31 am

1984twodoor wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
The downside to getting these from Autozone or Rockauto is that I'm going to get nailed on the core charges since I won't have calipers to give back. Also, call me paranoid but I fear I'll buy the reman's and end up getting a civi caliper.

Tomz9C1 wrote:
Give your civi's in return. They won't even know the difference! cheers 

Damn, nail on the head for the revolving cycle! This is exactly why you should worry Justin! We all do it that's the bad part...  Surprised 

Who knows if that warranty "vette" starter will actually be a Corvette P/N after it is re-manufactured!

I turned in an old SBC starter for the last vette one I bought, they didn't even open the box.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 11:02 am

95brmw wrote:
I turned in an old SBC starter for the last vette one I bought, they didn't even open the box.

Whats the difference anyway?
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 11:20 am

I believe this is also an issue with the steering box if you ever wanted the "SS" one. I thiiiink the "SS" box is actually a Jeep Grand Cherokee box from the 1990s. I seem to remember Billy M. talking about this. A lot of non-SS spec boxes got turned in as them and therefore you don't know what you get when you buy a reman'd one. Haha.

Personally I don't have a problem with people here turning in stuff that isn't what it's supposed to be, I would too. Lots of other people have done the same thing, so whatever. But check what you're getting!
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 11:40 am

Steering box is a whole other animal. If you look up the interchange on rockauto, they used the box on everything from AMC to GMC.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 11:54 am

I think Matt is specifically referring to the quick ratio, 2.5 turn box that is the 9C1/ss/grand Cherokee.
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 12:51 pm

MalibuSSwagon wrote:
95brmw wrote:
I turned in an old SBC starter for the last vette one I bought, they didn't even open the box.

Whats the difference anyway?

High torque starter, smaller, sounds cool Smile Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Sun May 18, 2014 11:28 pm

Tomz9C1 wrote:
MalibuSSwagon wrote:
95brmw wrote:
I turned in an old SBC starter for the last vette one I bought, they didn't even open the box.

Whats the difference anyway?

High torque starter, smaller, sounds cool Smile Very Happy 

That, and the one I turned i was twice the size of an LT1 starter  Very Happy 
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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Mon May 19, 2014 5:37 am

I always ask for a vette starter if the starter in the box is the big one.

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PostSubject: Re: WTB Front 9C1 Calipers   Mon May 19, 2014 3:33 pm

Well, since I'm going to screw A-zone. How wide are the 9C1 calipers supposed to be so I can measure them once I pick em up?  Laughing 
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