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An automobile club for the enthusiast who enjoys the last of the big GM cars. The rear wheel drive B and D bodys. Chevrolet Impala SS, Caprice, 9C1, Buick Roadmaster, Oldsmobile Custom Cruiser, Cadillac Fleetwood
 
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bladerunner

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PostSubject: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 2:06 pm

So once the nice weather hits, I want to do some work on surface rust on my frame. Looking to finish the Impala as well as my truck. Typically I have just used a wire brush or just borrowed a wire brush attachment for my angle grinder. My truck though has some more heavy scaling on it and I really want to clean it up to get a clear picture on any pitting. Here is a picture of the frame rail under the cab of my truck to give you an idea of what I am trying to rectify:

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I was thinking of getting a die grinder as they tend to be smaller and thus better suited for tight spaces like this. What would you recommend, just wire wheel it?
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 3:53 pm

Park it on a tarp and get a small portable sand blaster.
Bag of sand is CHEAP! buy a used one on CL or a harbor freight one.
Fast and thorough.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 4:31 pm

I had a buddy tell me those cheap blasters don't last, but honestly, I will probably only need it once or twice anyway. Cool, I will give it a shot.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 4:37 pm

It's just a pot you fill with sand, the only thing that wears out would be the nozzle which is replaceable, runs off a compressor, doesn't take much psi 75-80 psi should do. I'd say buy used on CL, use it and sell it.

Don't know if this is close to you but a good deal
http://maine.craigslist.org/tls/3632140471.html
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 5:18 pm

It will work for what you need, I been sandblasting for 20 years, and as long as you don't try to over load it they do an ok job.

The other way is to power wash the whole bottom, then put the fluid film to it. Worked on my truck.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 17, 2013 10:41 pm

Do you think its ok to sandblast the frame with the body and everything still on? I really never considered sandblasting as I have had people say you should only do it to a bare frame.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 11:02 am

The one in that ad looks a lot like this one from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/20-lb-pressurized-abrasive-blaster-68994.html

I even looked at Sears and Tractor Supply and they both look like the same model as this one, except for double the price. $55 does not seem bad. My compressor won't handle it though. I can track down my dad's, his should do.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 12:23 pm

bladerunner wrote:
The one in that ad looks a lot like this one from Harbor Freight:
http://www.harborfreight.com/20-lb-pressurized-abrasive-blaster-68994.html

I even looked at Sears and Tractor Supply and they both look like the same model as this one, except for double the price. $55 does not seem bad. My compressor won't handle it though. I can track down my dad's, his should do.

I have that HF one. It does ok. Goes thru a ton of sand, but did pretty good work.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 9:08 pm

The only "problem" with sand is that you will never get it out of all the cracks and crevices and holes. That might bother you, or it might not. Also, don't breath the dust. Silicosis is bad.

A needle scaler might work, if you can gain access.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 9:58 pm

Bull wrote:
The only "problem" with sand is that you will never get it out of all the cracks and crevices and holes. That might bother you, or it might not. Also, don't breath the dust. Silicosis is bad.

A needle scaler might work, if you can gain access.

Shocked My hands still felt the vibration the morning after I spent a day using one. If you do this be prepared for that!
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyMon Mar 18, 2013 10:50 pm

1984twodoor wrote:
Bull wrote:
The only "problem" with sand is that you will never get it out of all the cracks and crevices and holes. That might bother you, or it might not. Also, don't breath the dust. Silicosis is bad.

A needle scaler might work, if you can gain access.

Shocked My hands still felt the vibration the morning after I spent a day using one. If you do this be prepared for that!

A needle scaler? I bet it took of the rust though!
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyTue Mar 19, 2013 8:46 am

HF sells both a regular size and a compact needle scaler, so the compact one might be better for tight spaces. Basically all I am planning on removing is the bed and the dual gas tanks. That should provide enough room to get at most of the frame.

Frame is solid. Only hole I found was in the driver's side leaf hanger, which is common. Just a lot of surface rust and old rattle can undercoating that is peeling off. I have always like POR15 with a black rattle can top coat.
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptySun Mar 24, 2013 11:23 pm

Bull wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:
Bull wrote:
The only "problem" with sand is that you will never get it out of all the cracks and crevices and holes. That might bother you, or it might not. Also, don't breath the dust. Silicosis is bad.

A needle scaler might work, if you can gain access.

Shocked My hands still felt the vibration the morning after I spent a day using one. If you do this be prepared for that!

A needle scaler? I bet it took of the rust though!

Yes it did, that Bobcat looks great to this day! Cool I just wish I was smart enough to wear ear protection that day too!



***Dead thread revival***
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PostSubject: Re: Tools for Frame Rust   Tools for Frame Rust EmptyTue Apr 02, 2013 9:30 pm

Just ordered a needle scaler from Harbor Freight. I figure if it lasts this one job, it will have paid for itself.
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