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| | WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:16 pm | |
| The DGGM SS came from the factory with T87 cornering lamps according to compnine, and the replaced harness does not have them. There is currently an issue where the front turn signal will not blink (yet the circuit still flashes, so I'm assuming a wire is grounding out someplace), so I was going to look in the junkyard for a harness and just swap it to see if the problem was in the harness and not further back down the line.
If anyone has one, or knows of a car with one, feel free to let me know. I'm pretty sure the Roadmaster sedan harness will not work, but if I'm wrong, don't be afraid to enlighten me. Caprice, SS, and Roadmaster wagons should be the same. I have a '93 non-T87 harness from my old car, but the plug is different.
Thanks! | |
| | | Pooge
Posts : 1700 Join date : 2009-03-24
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:33 pm | |
| School me on what I need to look for, I think I have a harness or two in the loft. | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:39 pm | |
| Oh man, that would be awesome. Basically, it's the standalone harness for the headlights, front turn signals, everything. It plugs into the "main"(?) harness right behind the driver's side headlight, underneath the airbox where the MAF and air filter is. It's one medium sized connector. From there forward, the wires and wire looms diverge to each bulb, it runs from the driver's headlight across the front of the radiator in the core support to the pass. side, has the 2 ground eyelet connectors, etc. If it's removed, it would basically be a complete harness with the bulb sockets and everything dangling off of it, ready to be plugged into the connector behind the headlight on the driver's side. I just hate having no cornering lights now that I had them in the white Caprice. I figure I'm going to do this anyway, why not see if that's why my turn signal won't work? And if the problem is the same, that will give me a better idea of where the problem may be. | |
| | | Pooge
Posts : 1700 Join date : 2009-03-24
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:43 pm | |
| I know what a light harness is... Just tell me how to be sure it has the feature you are looking for, I have no clue. | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:51 pm | |
| Hahahaha While the normal one with have the usual headlight connectors, park/turn signal bulbs and connectors etc., the cornering light style harness with have an extra circuit with 2 larger clear bulbs and sockets (or should be clear) that screw into the little cornering lamp lenses. So the extra bulbs would be near the amber "194" (pretty sure they're not actually 194, but similar) side marker bulbs. The cornering light harness is basically tied into the whole headlight harness itself, inside the wire looms and everything. There will be a whole extra circuit with what I believe is an orange wire, and a black wire, running from the main connector to the 2 bulbs. That's what the colors are on the 1991-93s. It's a plug and play mod for the most part if the cars didn't have them. | |
| | | silverfox103
Posts : 1540 Join date : 2009-01-25 Age : 29 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons Island, GA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:53 pm | |
| Matt
I think they only came from the RMW not the Caprice. My RMW has the cornering lights, the Caprice does not have those lights. I have the harness you are looking for, but it is going into the Caprice.
Tom | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:55 pm | |
| - silverfox103 wrote:
- Matt
I think they only came from the RMW not the Caprice. My RMW has the cornering lights, the Caprice does not have those lights. I have the harness you are looking for, but it is going into the Caprice.
Tom Yeah, I've heard mixed opinions on what they actually came on, so I just posted what will interchange...lol. I think the Caprice LS sedans that were loaded up were available with them, and the DGGM Impala came with them new, so I think they were offered on those. Bizarre that they wouldn't come on the Caprice wagon since they were all coming down the same assembly line as far as I know... | |
| | | Pooge
Posts : 1700 Join date : 2009-03-24
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 1:55 pm | |
| - Matt Trakker wrote:
- Hahahaha
While the normal one with have the usual headlight connectors, park/turn signal bulbs and connectors etc., the cornering light style harness with have an extra circuit with 2 larger clear bulbs and sockets (or should be clear) that screw into the little cornering lamp lenses. So the extra bulbs would be near the amber "194" (pretty sure they're not actually 194, but similar) side marker bulbs. The cornering light harness is basically tied into the whole headlight harness itself, inside the wire looms and everything. There will be a whole extra circuit with what I believe is an orange wire, and a black wire, running from the main connector to the 2 bulbs. That's what the colors are on the 1991-93s. It's a plug and play mod for the most part if the cars didn't have them.
I will check out what I have tonight | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:02 pm | |
| Sure thing Doug, let me know! Failing all else I might be interested in a good non-t87 harness that's already removed too, since if I go to the junkyard I'll just have to scrape knuckles in 35 degree weather standing in mud that smells like gear oil, removing a harness, not fun. But I think my 1993 regular harness uses all the same wiring and sockets, just a diff. main connector. I just haven't had time to really mess with checking the wires out because A), I suck at electrical, 2) My multimeter is a piece of crap and the leads fell off, and D), I live in the crappiest place in the United States of America, with no heated garage to work on, and I can just drive the Tahoe that does not currently wear MA plates with an expired NH n'speckshun stickah. Period. | |
| | | silverfox103
Posts : 1540 Join date : 2009-01-25 Age : 29 Location : Littleton, NH & St. Simons Island, GA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 2:37 pm | |
| Matt, that Caprice Wagon that Glen just posted may have that harness.
Tom | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:33 pm | |
| Ha, I saw that! I don't think it does though, you can usually tell by looking right at the corner lenses, there will be a dark spot right before the amber reflector where the bulb and socket are somewhat visible...
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| | | Ironfistdog
Posts : 2141 Join date : 2011-01-11 Age : 42 Location : Warren, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Thu Dec 13, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| Matt I definitely have one in the rmw, I am not using it because I have the RMS clip on. It may need a socket reattached because I clipped the small 194 bulb out to hard wire in the RMS park lights. I might also have a couple hanging around in the boxes-o-stuff. You can have it for free if you get me a replacement harness, i.e. Drive out and swap them or figure out logistics. I have THIS weekend off. And an open bay in the garage. I'll look in the boxes when I get home tomorrow. | |
| | | Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Fri Dec 14, 2012 5:14 pm | |
| Thanks for the offer Indy, I'm not going to be around this weekend but who knows. I'd really like something complete and plug and play to just put in the car.
I went to Jack's today to take a look...95 Caprice wagon there with no corner lamps but did have the whole headlight harness, was tempted to grab it but I kind of don't feel like taking it out of the car there just to get another standard headlamp harness. Maybe in the morning... There were a few cars there that did have the lamps but they were 91-93 vehicles... | |
| | | Tomz9C1
Posts : 1498 Join date : 2009-01-21 Age : 61 Location : Rumford, Maine
| Subject: Re: WTB 1994-96 Caprice/RMW headlight harness with cornering lamps Sat Dec 15, 2012 9:25 am | |
| My B4U has this option I think. When I turn my blinker on it has an extra light and illuminates that side of the car. Going to add this feature to my 9C1, eventually. | |
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