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 Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?

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Pooge



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PostSubject: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 7:55 pm

I'm thinking about doing an "art" project using old license plates, but I would need to attach them with a weld-like bond. Anyone familiar with products that might work?

I'd like to grab something tomorrow, so a brand and type of store that might carry it is a plus...I have no clue...

Thanks,

Doug

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:09 pm

JB Weld is the ultimate best in my book. AZone carries it.
Cures like metal filler.
Can be worked just like metal.
They have a quick set type which I'd recommend for that application.
Otherwise you'll walk away with one design & return to another.
It is gray tho...dont know if that matters.
I once filled a groove being cut in an axle by a cheap sitdown lawnmower wheel.
Filled it, ground it back to original axle dim's....outlived the rest of the mower.
Most epoxies (quickset) nowadays will do what you want if there's not a ton of weight.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 8:23 pm

Easy enough, I considered JB weld, but it just seemed too obvious...lol

Thanks Steve. I'll post up after I attempt my first try tomorrow night. I have an idea for a really cool birthday present for the old man.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:17 pm

JB Weld seconded. But, "Quiksteel" is easier to work with, you just kinda roll the rod of it together to mix the two, and then mold it how you want, then it sets up.

I've seen a JB Weld version of Quiksteel, so I don't know if they got bought out or what. It's like a plastic tube on a bubble card and works kind of the same way as JB.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:28 pm

No TIG welder?
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 9:52 pm

Robbins or Napa sell Body seal. It is what is found in most cars to seal out moisture, or they have panel glue. That is strong stuff. Chevrolet first used it on the then new 93 F-body instead of welds in certain spots.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:01 pm

PC*7. It's a metal filled epoxy that looks like metal when cured, you can file it, sand it, and drill it. Comes in two seperate small cans. Available at most hardware stores. -Joe
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:13 pm

^I've heard good things about that stuff, I was gonna try it to form some new quarter panel patches for my Caprice.
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Tue Jun 26, 2012 11:01 pm

More on the panel adhesives Bill was alluding to:

Consistently hear excellent reviews for the Lord Fusor products:

http://www.lord.com/Products-And-Solutions/Adhesives/Lord-Fusor-Products.xml

Online catalog:

http://www.lord.com/index.cfm?action=download&document_id=2535

There are several to choose from, so you'll have to read up on what formulation is best for your application.

An autobody supply place should have something in stock.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 5:42 am

You could use double sided automotive tape from 3M. Would work awesome.

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:20 am

Thanks for all the info guys.

I scored some TC-7 today to test out, pretty reasonably priced for a test, $5 or so. I like the sounds of it because it sounds like, once it sets, if there is any residual you can sand and paint it just like metal.

If it doesn't fit my needs I will start digging into the panel adhesives that Bill and Jay were mentioning.

This will be an "art" project, once it is done it will be framed, so there will be no real stress or movement involved, but I still want it to be "One piece" when I'm done.

I am attempting something like this for a birthday present for my old man, but of his 68 Camaro convertable:


I'll be starting a test tonight of a B-body, made up of probably about 6 plates including 2 that were once on my 94 Impala. I plan to paint the plates used for the car BBB and then use unpainted Vermont plates as a hillside background and a yet-to-be-determined blue/white plate as a a sky background. I'm not wild about the wood background in this guys work, and I thought "The more plates the better"

Doug

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:12 pm

I like where this thread is going Arrow

Looking forward to the progress. bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 5:21 am

1984twodoor wrote:
I like where this thread is going Arrow

Looking forward to the progress. bounce
Me too. Arrow


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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:40 am

Thanks guys!

That TC7 worked really well, had a long tack-time and cured overnight. I have several plates epoxied together and I can lift it by one plate and swing it around. I'm thinking I could probably pull them apart if I tried hard enough, but I'm impressed with how it has set so far. It also calls for a 24 hour cure time, so it might firm up even more by tonight.

I have a printout cut and taped together of a 4 foot long Impala. I plan to trace this onto the glued together plates tonight and and start cutting out the main design. This is proving to be a TON of work, but also quite fun. I can understand how the guy above wants $1300 for that truck picture...I have at least 3 hours in this already and the plates are not even done gluing.

I found the 3rd vanity plate I had on the 94 Impala, so my design will have all 3 plates that the 94 wore when I was driving it...I'm pumped. I'll get a couple pics tonight and put them up tomorrow for those interested.

Doug

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 8:50 am

CT plates have sky blue at the top....
send a couple of members & screwdriver & a self destructing tape with thier mission... Cool
Waiting for pics... Arrow

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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Thu Jun 28, 2012 9:49 am

sdstick wrote:
CT plates have sky blue at the top....
send a couple of members & screwdriver & a self destructing tape with thier mission... Cool
Waiting for pics... Arrow

Good call Steve, CT plates would be perfect for the sky. It would be cool to keep it to New England plates for this one.


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PostSubject: Re: Does anyone have experience with metal epoxies?   Fri Jun 29, 2012 1:01 pm

TC7 has worked great, however for how much I am using it is kid of time consuming to work with.

I figured since the subject has pretty much changed here that I would create a new thread for the license plate car and essentially close this one out.

New Thread: http://badass-of-ne.forumotion.com/t4435-my-license-plate-art#55059

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