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PostSubject: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:28 pm

my shocks seem pretty worn and I know the rear air shock has a leak or something... either way, the car's a bit overly rollie-poly over bumps and I wanted to get something SLIGHTLY more stiff and in control. I'm not sure how old the springs are, but I might as well replace those too if I can afford to.
I'd LIKE to remove the air suspension if I can too and make it simpler.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:39 pm

Gabrial Ultras at autozone are a decent inexpensive shock that will get rid of the bounce.
Regular front and rear
front
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Gabriel-Ultra-Shock-Strut-Front/1994-Chevrolet-Caprice/_/N-j0wemZ8oxxw?itemIdentifier=220145_172635_7413_2183
rear
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Gabriel-Ultra-Shock-Strut-Rear/1994-Chevrolet-Caprice/_/N-j0wemZ8oxxx?itemIdentifier=358820_6880_7413_2183
Police/taxi
front
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Gabriel-Ultra-Shock-Strut-Front/1994-Chevrolet-Caprice/_/N-j0wemZ8oxxw?itemIdentifier=62851_172635_7413_3899
rear
http://www.autozone.com/autozone/parts/Gabriel-Ultra-Shock-Strut-Rear/1994-Chevrolet-Caprice/_/N-j0wemZ8oxxx?itemIdentifier=258467_6880_7413_3899
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:48 pm

Police/Taxi are heavier duty and good for a wagon?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:48 pm

chapel wrote:
Police/Taxi are heavier duty and good for a wagon?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 8:49 pm

anything fancy I need to do to disable the air assist for the rear? Just pull a fuse or are there lines I need to remove?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:24 pm

Just unplug the compressor and you'll be fine
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Sun Apr 15, 2012 9:27 pm

that's what I figured.
you never did the suspension on it, right?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:51 pm

I have the Gabriel Ultra's in the rear of my wagon. VERY nice shock. Coupled with the CC623 variable rate spring the ride sits and rides great now Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 12:58 pm

where do you get those springs from?

is that coil# both front and rear?


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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:00 pm

chapel wrote:
where do you get those springs from?

Rockauto. But if you give Autozone/Advance that part number they can order them too.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:01 pm

is that coil part# both front and rear?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:09 pm

chapel wrote:
is that coil part# both front and rear?

No. CC623 is for the rear. I have 5030 for the front which is a 9C1 spring.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:17 pm

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chapel wrote:
is that coil part# both front and rear?

No. CC623 is for the rear. I have 5030 for the front which is a 9C1 spring.

awesome, thanks.
so it looks like about $100 for shocks and $100 for springs?

anything else that needs to be replaced when doing those? any 'non reusable bolts/nuts' or bushings?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:21 pm

chapel wrote:
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is that coil part# both front and rear?

No. CC623 is for the rear. I have 5030 for the front which is a 9C1 spring.

awesome, thanks.
so it looks like about $100 for shocks and $100 for springs?

anything else that needs to be replaced when doing those? any 'non reusable bolts/nuts' or bushings?

The Ultra's will come with all new hardware.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:26 pm

jeez, you guys are lucky how cheap this can be...
$200 with my old cars got you used parts.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Tue Apr 17, 2012 1:28 pm

chapel wrote:
jeez, you guys are lucky how cheap this can be...
$200 with my old cars got you used parts.

I still own the 1.8T. I know... I know.... Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 12:39 pm

are the shocks and springs replaceable without an alignment?

and, seeing as I'm at work without my shop manual, how difficult on a scale of 1 to GODF***INGDAMNIT is changing the suspension?
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 3:07 pm

It is highly recommended when a front steering component is replaced that an alignment should follow.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:06 pm

Toms right about alignment.
Replacing the springs (front) can be a little scary (only because of the power),
but, with a helping hand its no problem. New suspensions FTW cheers

On the scale....4
....ONLY because of the front springs & one time battle with upper rear shock mounts.

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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:07 pm

any special tools required? spring compressor?
Is this 'Shock Absorber Socket' necessary?
http://www.handsontools.com/Kent-Moore-J-25591-Front-Shock-Absorber-Socket_p_22877.html?utm_source=googlebase&utm_medium=CSE&utm_term=Kent-Moore%20J-25591%20Front%20Shock%20Absorber%20Socket&utm_campaign=BROI
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:19 pm

Nope.
I found theyre more trouble to properly implement then theyre worth.
Remove the tire & shock
Jack under the LCA, loosen BJ castle nut (tap to seperate)
Lower jack slowly & remove spring
Assemble in reverse.
How far are you going?...BJ's too?

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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Wed Apr 18, 2012 11:23 pm

Cant tell what that shock socket is.
There is a good one for that.
Old shocks I just break it off & go (if your talking fronts).
Rears are only because of location & access to both sides of the nut / bolt

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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Thu Apr 19, 2012 5:32 am

I just use a deep 9/16 socket with 12"-18" of extension on it. Place the socket with the extension over the top bolt of the front shock, and move the extension back and forth until the bolt fractures. Could take 5 times. Could take twenty times. Make sure you get at least 6-12" of fore and aft movement.
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Mon Jun 18, 2012 1:27 pm

I need to get this done next. I gave the front bumper a boot and the car was rolling for days Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: Need some suspension suggestions   Thu Jun 21, 2012 12:21 pm

just curious... is there sort of a 'performance' suspension option?
I know I'm not gonna make a corner carver... but I'd like to have something a bit more stable
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