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Mr. BBQ



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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Sep 24, 2012 9:54 am

Awesome thread!

I've been following the Buford project and really like it. Looks like a hell of a fun time beating on it! I do enjoy the wise-assery in the articles as well Arrow Great work Brian.

I'd also love to hear the inside scoop stories as well, I remember flipping through those articles. Funny, such a small world
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Sep 24, 2012 4:11 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:


On a side note, did I see pics of your dyno mishap in Hot Rod or Car Craft? I forget which mag I was looking at, but the pics and story certainly looked like yours!

I was at my same friends house the other night before we went to the J. Geils concert in Hampton, and as I leafed through a HR magazine, there was the dyno mishap article...LOL
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Sep 25, 2012 8:42 am

One of the other good stories of the day is how I nearly killed BangShift years before it ever existed. While shooting the photo of the mustang burnout, it took a couple of attempts. Nothing wrong with that in my book as I was having a good time blowing the tires off of the thing. Anyway, for the last attempt, Chad (who is my business partner in BangShift and was then involved with Freiburger in their Car Junkie TV venture) was standing off to the right with a big reflector, bouncing light onto the car for the photo. I did a huge smokey burnout and then the photographer motioned to carry the burnout forward, so I did with the tires smoking and the rear end pitching sideways. Chad stood still and I passed the nose of the car within about six inches of him on the way by. The car wasn't out of control, but I sure as hell was expecting him to move. People are laughing and applauding and I rolled back over the Chad and was like, "DUDE, WTF?!" He smiles and says, "I have faith...you were good!"

A year and a half later, we opened the doors at BS and the rest is history!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Sep 26, 2012 10:29 pm

New rubber and wheels are on and suspension install is complete.



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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:10 pm

Cool story, Brian. Smile

And that boxy is bitchin'!!!!!

What are you gonna paint it? (Please say you're not!)

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:21 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
Cool story, Brian. Smile

And that boxy is bitchin'!!!!!

What are you gonna paint it? (Please say you're not!)

The front filler panels couldn't hurt though

Nice car
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:36 pm

Yeah, the lack of a filler panel is way ghetto. I ordered one from Rock Auto.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:39 pm

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Yeah, the lack of a filler panel is way ghetto. I ordered one from Rock Auto.

Just spray bomb it! Arrow

Car does look mean. Can't wait to actually see it and meet ya!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Sep 27, 2012 12:39 am

X2! I'm in love with this B! I enjoy your site too! Great reading and good laid back sense of humor.

Dibs if you sell it lol.

Those soft 8's and new rubber are perfect for that ride. I've got pics of another 9c1 just like it, online, and I would keep a white box white, or repaint it white.

KEEP IT WHITE! I'm not sure about what's going on with that b pillar tho.

Keep up the updates. Big fans here. I bet your #1 fan is Matt! I hope to see it in person soon.

Come along way already!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:08 am

Update coming soon, but here's a sneak photo or two!

My pal Dave Nutting shot these..





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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:28 am

I dig the wheel/tire combo! Sauce'm!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 15, 2012 12:47 am

PERFECT!!! This goes back to my thread on "how a box should look". You're doing a great job! I ordered some swag from the site too!

Wow, it just looks so... Wow!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 15, 2012 3:32 pm

Looks awesome dude! I approve very much! Arrow Can't wait to see it in person.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 11:49 am

Here's the full update story with lots of photos -

http://bangshift.com/blog/buford-update-our-9c1-caprice-gets-transformed-with-mickey-thompson-tires-and-cragar-wheels.html
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:00 pm

Love the wheel/tire combo.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:04 pm

Those tires are the new Mickey Thompson Street Comps. MT spent a while working on developing these and the goal was to have a tire that would perform on the level of high end stuff like Pilots, but come in far lower on the price scale. I have found them to be very good so far. They work better with some heat in them, so I've found that if I am being aggressive with the car, they start working better and better.

Obviously, this thing isn't going to be an SCCA road racer, but I am going to auto-x it and stuff next year and my feeling is that these tires are certainly up to the task.

Brian
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 12:43 pm

Dibs if you sell it Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 2:05 pm

MT's are manufactured by Cooper. So, I expect that they perform well. That Mickey Thompson Street Comp is basically the exact same tire as the Cooper Zeon RS3-S.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 17, 2012 3:08 pm

This car is very cool! Cannot wait to see it in person!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 21, 2012 4:49 pm

Went out and had some FUN this morning! Write up coming on BS, but this thing is officially hilarious to drive with the 275s and suspension installed. I also did the Jeep steering shaft swap this morning and that made things exponentially better due to the fact that the rag joint was TRASHED.



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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 21, 2012 8:53 pm

Nice shots d00d. Shoulda come up to Neh Hampsheh with it afterward!

I want to autocross my car sometime, but I keep thinking a bunch of crap in the trunk will slide all over the place and dent the insides of the quarters... Shocked
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 21, 2012 9:04 pm

Looks awesome! Corners pretty flat, too. Smile

Where'd ya run it?

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 22, 2012 6:36 am

The parking lot of a trucking terminal in town...that is closed on Sunday and relatively hidden from the main road. AKA the BangShift secret proving grounds! HA!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:19 am


That box looks pretty mean now.

Looked 3 times for some daylight under the non-loaded tire.. Smile

Looks REALLY good with the new sneakers / wheels / suspension....REALLY....good.

bangshiftbrian wrote:
..... AKA the BangShift secret proving grounds! HA!

Nice.. Arrow .. Cool

^^ How NOT to keep a secret^^ Razz

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Oct 22, 2012 9:24 am

Yeah, hey, invite some of us down next time! We can keep a secret! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Oct 23, 2012 12:01 am

I should have come up for the get together. I'm a heel and saw it too late.

Weather permitting, the drag strip parts install weekend of doom is set to occur this weekend. There's a slight deviation from my original plan as I was going to drive the car to NED and back, but luck/work has shone down on me. I am getting a press fleet Ford Raptor truck to test for a week so I'm going to work out the Raptor's towing ability by dragging ol' Buford up on my trailer. This also is a security blanket in case something goes wrong...what could possibly go wrong?!

I am hoping to get up there Saturday by noon to get a couple laps in and then start the swapping. The weather looks bad for Sunday, so who the hell knows. SEMA is next week and the track closes so if the weekend washes out, all the parts will still be installed but on a chassis dyno, measuring hp gains as we add stuff in a week or two. The strip is way cooler although I wish they would keep the place open until it snows like Atco and other tracks.

Brian
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Oct 24, 2012 11:53 am

Slight change o' plans. The Raptor is only here until Friday, so I'm either driving Buford up or maybe dragging it with my pop's Chevy truck.

Either way, I'll be up there on Sunday wrenching my little heart out. HA!

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:35 pm

Cross member notched and reinstalled. Tube Chassis Designz in Hanson did the notch. It is officially the nicest freaking part on the damned car. Smile

Jon and John down there do some incredible work. This was about a half hour job. Wild.





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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:42 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Cross member notched and reinstalled. Tube Chassis Designz in Hanson did the notch. It is officially the nicest freaking part on the damned car. Smile

Jon and John down there do some incredible work. This was about a half hour job. Wild.






Nice! If you don't mind me asking how much did that cost? I need to get this done to one of mine for the eventual dual exhaust and that one looks GOOD! Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:50 pm

Right about a hundo.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Oct 25, 2012 11:56 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Right about a hundo.


not bad at all for a really nice job. Those welds are good lookin! I still have to see the car in person, it's too cool to not see!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Fri Oct 26, 2012 2:58 pm

Wow, that's a sexy piece! Smile

Hope to make it up to NED Sunday, if Sandy is running late, that is. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Fri Oct 26, 2012 10:11 pm

Cool Bill! Ford pulled all their press fleet loans back in early due to the storm so the Raptor won't be there. I'm dragging the car up to the track with my dad's 3/4 ton Chevy. It'll do just fine. Smile

Cruised the car about 50 miles today just to make sure all the little junk was good and now it is ready to get the hammer at the strip! I am going to try and get the MSD box mounted and have the wires pre-run so when I stab the new dist in the thing, the box will be plug and play to save time.

Earlier in the day I was at another secret BS test facility doing a bunch of stuff like this... (today did not suck at all..ha!)





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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:42 pm

Soggy rain out today....BOO!

Got four passes in but just established a baseline. Not surprisingly, the move from the 700R4 to the TH350 (not by choice, remember!) cut the nuts right off the thing. In stock trim I managed a best of 16.30, a half second and 7mph slower than with the 700R4. I had just removed the exhaust and gotten the MSD set up squared away when the rain came and that was it.

The whole plan will now be executed on a chassis dyno in a couple of weeks. Not as compelling, but it will be cool to see what each bolt on ads for power.

Brian
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:52 pm

Yeah Brian, it was raining/misting all day here from the time I got up, so I didn't bother coming up. I figured the rain had kept you away. I shoulda gone to meet ya anyways! Dammit.

Next time. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Sun Oct 28, 2012 10:28 pm

That sucks, but who wants to be out in this crap (besides ol crovo) anyway. I have to be, but I'd rather be comfy in a shop with a dyno.

Keep the updates and pics coming!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 13, 2012 9:27 pm

Dyno thrash part one completed. Made about 10 pulls yesterday. Got ignition installed and tested, new Holley installed and tested, new intake intstalled and tested as well. Ran out of time for headers and cam so I'll be doing those next week and hitting the rollers again. I am going to wait until all the parts are installed and run on the dyno before writing the final story and results, but the gains thus far are pretty impressive. The stock manifolds are absolutely killing the peak numbers but there have been some major league gains made down low and mid range.

What's going to be hilarious is when I install the headers and we get numbers. Those things are going to look like heroes because the log manifolds are so horrific at moving air at 4,000 and up. The tiny factory cam isn't helping either.

I drove the thing from my house to the dyno shop and back (about 30 miles each way) with open exhaust (pipes terminated at the cross member). Only one close call with a State Trooper who had someone pulled over and I went rumbling by. I jumped off the next exit and took back roads home from there! With low stock compression and the aforementioned little cam, it isn't that loud. Sounds like a demo derby car.

Here's a photo of the motor as it sits now...



Here's a group photo. That's me on the right looking like a coal miner. Behind me is shop owner Travis Johnson, next to me is Dave Nutting, next to him is Tony Maffini (those guys were my henchmen during the ordeal), and behind Tony is Ben Dahlgreen, Travis's right hand man.






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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 13, 2012 10:15 pm

Awesome work man. Car is coming together badass. Sorry the track thrash got rained out.

Looking forward to hooking up with you at some point!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:33 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Dyno thrash part one completed. Made about 10 pulls yesterday. Got ignition installed and tested, new Holley installed and tested, new intake intstalled and tested as well. Ran out of time for headers and cam so I'll be doing those next week and hitting the rollers again. I am going to wait until all the parts are installed and run on the dyno before writing the final story and results, but the gains thus far are pretty impressive. The stock manifolds are absolutely killing the peak numbers but there have been some major league gains made down low and mid range.

What's going to be hilarious is when I install the headers and we get numbers. Those things are going to look like heroes because the log manifolds are so horrific at moving air at 4,000 and up. The tiny factory cam isn't helping either.

I drove the thing from my house to the dyno shop and back (about 30 miles each way) with open exhaust (pipes terminated at the cross member). Only one close call with a State Trooper who had someone pulled over and I went rumbling by. I jumped off the next exit and took back roads home from there! With low stock compression and the aforementioned little cam, it isn't that loud. Sounds like a demo derby car.

Here's a photo of the motor as it sits now...



Here's a group photo. That's me on the right looking like a coal miner. Behind me is shop owner Travis Johnson, next to me is Dave Nutting, next to him is Tony Maffini (those guys were my henchmen during the ordeal), and behind Tony is Ben Dahlgreen, Travis's right hand man.





This is some awesome news, but the bolded portion has some words I never want to see you type again when referring to a boxy caprice. It's a touchy subject Sad

Anyway, keep it up!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 13, 2012 11:42 pm

Good call!

No derbies for Buford!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Nov 14, 2012 12:03 am

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Good call!

No derbies for Buford!

Arrow Good!
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Nov 14, 2012 4:19 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Good call!

No derbies for Buford!

You boxy guys think you know, but you have no idea. Laughing Think about how I feel! I've seen 40 year old B-bodies that should be at the cruise night get stripped and wind up with stacks through the hood getting destroyed...and get super pissed thinking about all those spare parts going to waste for what could have been accomplished with an '04 Crown Vic taxicab! Crying or Very sad

Donks are still worse though. Mad

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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Wed Nov 14, 2012 6:12 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
The stock manifolds are absolutely killing the peak numbers but there have been some major league gains made down low and mid range.

What's going to be hilarious is when I install the headers and we get numbers. Those things are going to look like heroes because the log manifolds are so horrific at moving air at 4,000 and up. The tiny factory cam isn't helping either.


Forgive me if I've missed something in not knowing for sure what engine combination you are running,,,

I am assuming that this was an L03/L05 type TBI engine.

We do our fair share of stock based class racing engine work at our shop, & sometimes we "work on" log exhaust castings because some of our customers are required to run them.

Admittedly, log design exhaust manifolds are not great, but those cylinder heads are truly terrible for anything beyond low & early mid torque numbers.

The biggest problem with exhaust log manifolds is not how much air volume they can move,

But rather how they fail miserably at scavenging burnt gasses the way tuned headers do by matching tube length and diameter to be in balance with the ram tuning effect of the intake runners.

The intake port roof of the TBI head has a "ski-jump" ramp that GM's engineers originally employed to promote "swirl" and turbulence as the air & fuel enter the chamber.

I suspect that your HP and RPM limiting factors will be those heads.

GM has a part number 10125377 that fits identically, but has no such ramp in it. I think it was intended as the marine engine version.

Many people use the Vortec L31 type heads with it's correct matching intake, but be advised that you must modify the guide seal area to achieve more than around 0.470" lift.

You will never get what those new headers are capable of until you get good (or at least much better) heads and a carefully selected camshaft in there.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Thu Nov 15, 2012 7:06 am

Not sure on the engine code but it is a factory intalled 4bbl 350 roller engine and yeah, you are spot on with respect to the shortcomings of the heads and manifolds. I have a cam (valve springs, rockers. etc, as well) to install along with the headers and I have a budget set of aluminum heads on the way. For purposes of the story, I am going to bolt on the headers, make dyno pulls, install the cam, make dyno pulls, and then pull it all apart again and bolt on the new heads, making pulls to show the effects of everything working as a system.

The motor is in great shape (visually) inside. No sludge and clean as a whistle. That was good to see when we pulled the stock iron intake off of it.

Brian
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Nov 19, 2012 9:14 pm

Anyone know what the stock compression would have been with respect to the motor in the car? I pulled the heads off and they are 14101083 heads with 64cc chambers. Interestingly these were the heads used on TPI 350 engines (L98?) of the 1987-89 era. They were also used on 300hp GMPP crate engines of the time. I realize that they suck, but I am sticking with them for purposes of the story at this point. They're getting a little valve job at the machine shop and I was halfway thinking of milling them for more compression, but I have a feeling that I am already at 9:1 or something.

Any ideas?
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Mon Nov 19, 2012 11:52 pm

My guess....with a smog pumper....8.5:1
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 20, 2012 9:05 am

I can check the FSM when I get home to see if it has any specifics
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 20, 2012 2:56 pm

bangshiftbrian wrote:
Anyone know what the stock compression would have been with respect to the motor in the car? I pulled the heads off and they are 14101083 heads with 64cc chambers. Interestingly these were the heads used on TPI 350 engines (L98?) of the 1987-89 era. They were also used on 300hp GMPP crate engines of the time. I realize that they suck, but I am sticking with them for purposes of the story at this point. They're getting a little valve job at the machine shop and I was halfway thinking of milling them for more compression, but I have a feeling that I am already at 9:1 or something.

Any ideas?

See if the pistons are in fact the original ones, if they say something like 030, 30, or .030" on the top, then they've been replaced.

Record the complete alpha-numeric code on the pass side top front deck, behind the alternator, as this will reveal what your engine started out as, and therefore your compression can be easily found.

The best L05 was the 96 only G-30 van with the Vortec "L31-type" heads, you may find one in the scrap-yards still.

The L31 Vortec head's intake and exhaust ports are based on the LT1's, but on those RPOs the compression ratio was held down because it was not reverse cooled like 2nd Gen engines (LT1 & L99).

If you harbor any hopes for RPMs, don't waste a penny on the Swirl Port heads though.

Let us know if you want to reuse the aftermarket 4bbl intake manifold that you have, because you will need to match up the four intake to head bolts for a correct fit, as the angles were changed.

You will also have to consider intake port gasket compatibility as well. Intake port height, width and shape were slightly different from engine model to engine model.

Make a list of all the part numbers you want to use (GM & aftermarket also) heads, intakes, includes parts you already have or want to buy, and don't forget to copy/post here the engine's vin code.

If the block's head surface has been decked, it is very possible that the Alpha-Numeric codes have been machined off though.

Milling the head for compression properly will cost more than it's worth, very often.

To get meaningful compression bumps, you have to angle mill the heads which then requires careful angle milling of the intake gasket surface, or you will not get an intake manifold to seal.

This angle milling process is common when you have to use an exact head in your specific sanctioning body's racing rules book.

In your case, to do it right would be better achieved by getting the best combination of parts at the outset.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:02 pm

bfurches wrote:
My guess....with a smog pumper....8.5:1

1987 5.7 VIN CODE LM1 is an 8.2:1 Compression ratio so says the FSM. Buford is an 87 right? Hope that answers your question.
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PostSubject: Re: Bangshift Boxy   Tue Nov 20, 2012 6:46 pm

1984twodoor wrote:
bfurches wrote:
My guess....with a smog pumper....8.5:1

1987 5.7 VIN CODE LM1 is an 8.2:1 Compression ratio so says the FSM. Buford is an 87 right? Hope that answers your question.

Ahh damn it all! So close LOL
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