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Black death 13



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PostSubject: Went to the DYNO today    Sat Mar 03, 2012 7:18 pm

I took my 95 SS Impala to the DYNO today as it has no balls so I had to get it tuned. The car has this done to it home plate off ,no air pump,eltric water pump,Hooker supercomp headers,2 1/2 ,52mm throtal body,mannral bent exhaust,flowmasters,Arazona marine and speeed cold air intake , at

SD comcept engineering. recal speedo for my 4.10 and 22" rims fermed up shifts and adjust my shift points ,optimze tune for my fule and need timing points

That made 7 dyno pulls car made 287.7 Hp and 301 Torque to the rear tires

Need to make 300 Hp next time I go cost of the tune and dyno time was only $475 that is a hell of a deal !!



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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:36 am

why would you dyno with the 22's............ even with the calibration seems like all you would be doing is hurting your goal?



...... im not "mr. know it all " ....... but seems to me you should of pulled better numbers with the mods done.
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PostSubject: OK if you say    Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:49 am

There was a 96 SS Impala with that same mods as I have and a cam . It made 279.4 hp and 299 Torque that 10 less Hp and 3 less Torque to the rear tires, The 22 have nothing to do with the dyno numbers. There has been 23 SS Impala's dynoed there in the last 2 years . Rock stock the car makes 218 to the rear tires this is not the flywheel you get a loss around 75 Hp with the auto trans , So my mods made me 70 more Hp and I thought that was not that bad .
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:23 am

I wish I could get 70+ HP gain from my home plate delete and CAI setup.
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PostSubject: Just why I did not want to post   Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:45 am

Home plate,Air pump plate delet.
Arazona marien and speed cold air intake
54 MM throtal body
Custom made Throtal body spacer
ADJUSTABLE FUEL PRESSURE REGULATOR
Ported stock intake manifold
Hooker Super Competition Headers Shorty Silver Ceramic Coated
Heartthrob 2 1/1mandrel bent tubing Exhaust all Ceraic Coated
E3 plugs

It was not just a home plate delete
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:45 am

MASShole9C1 wrote:
I wish I could get 70+ HP gain from my home plate delete and CAI setup.
Don't YOU have the cop chip? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:51 am

IMPALADAKID wrote:
MASShole9C1 wrote:
I wish I could get 70+ HP gain from my home plate delete and CAI setup.
Don't YOU have the cop chip? Razz

LOL! I wish! I've been searching for that super rare thing for what seems like, forevever jocolor Razz
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:52 am

Got jokes !
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:54 am

Its all jokes and jabs. Are you planning to attend the meet on the 11th?
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:55 am

MASShole9C1 wrote:
IMPALADAKID wrote:
MASShole9C1 wrote:
I wish I could get 70+ HP gain from my home plate delete and CAI setup.
Don't YOU have the cop chip? Razz

LOL! I wish! I've been searching for that super rare thing for what seems like, forevever jocolor Razz



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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:55 am

Thanks for posting that up.
Alot of guys forget to put up info when they do mods.
Where is that dyno (& tuner)? Do you know them?

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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:57 am

Damn, I got jipped then. I thought painting it that rare black color would have helped out the HP, I was wrong. Ooops! Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 10:58 am

MASShole9C1 wrote:
Its all jokes and jabs. Are you planning to attend the meet on the 11th?


yeah, Im not knocking the deuce's. Im the type to rock a set myself. Any pics on the board somewhere?


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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:00 am

Post pics
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PostSubject: Pic   Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:02 am

I do not know how to and I will let me know how to do it . I have tryed
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:03 am

Do you have a photo bucket or someplace on line I can see the pics, I can post them for you for now if you'd like
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:05 am

No photo pucket in my lap top email me and I will send you some photos Mammy427@hotmail.com
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:07 am

We try not to mimic the "Big Board" cuz....we're quite unique Cool

SO......we dont say "USE THE SEARCH FEATURE"

BUT....it does work Arrow Very Happy

Searched "posting pics" found the below:

http://badass-of-ne.forumotion.com/t54-uploading-and-posting-pictures-101?highlight=posting+pics

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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 11:09 am

Email sent
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:40 pm

Masshole9c1 I did send you the photos now how do I post them on Bad Ass of New England
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 12:56 pm

I just finished a step by step email and also signed you up with photobucket.
username and password and instructions are all in the email.
I did upload your pics to your new album in photobucket so you can use them right away!
Just follow what i wrote and its that simple.
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 4:41 pm

Heres some pics


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PostSubject: Thank you    Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:07 pm

Thanks for posting My SS Impala ... I tryed but I was stoned this is Rhode Island and we have medical marijauna and that is my meds legal. This is why I stayin RI. .
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:11 pm

where and who tuned it? i need mine tuned
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PostSubject: Dyno    Sun Mar 04, 2012 6:32 pm

I went to SDCE in warwick RI I was never there he made me feel right at home . I was ther from 9 am toill 4 pma 7 houres on the dyno . He tuned the car and made me 66.2 more Hp. and 54.8 foot pounds , Made my thans shif the way we want it to shift and made my converter lock up wren we went it to lock up. You can look them up on face book SDCE I called around and the right person to tune it for me and he made more power and the trans is just sick . It cost me only $475 for all that. He made 7 Dyno pulls and I am happy he made my SS come to life
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:04 pm

Black Death 13, Did you come buy a B4U rear end from me last year?
Some guy from RI came and met me at my fathers house in Sturbridge, MA to buy a rear end for his impala and was talking about a "marijuana card" we stuffed the rear end into a small import car.
Maybe it was someone else.........?
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:10 pm

Black death 13 wrote:
Thanks for posting My SS Impala ... I tryed but I was stoned this is Rhode Island and we have medical marijauna and that is my meds legal. This is why I stayin RI. .



..... what? affraid ...... how? and where do I get me some? bounce
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Sun Mar 04, 2012 9:37 pm

Itonfist that was me and my son and I know it was not in RI but I have to take my meds Dr's orders. I Did as i said I had it POWDER COATED and did a auborn posi unit with 4:11 . Small world bro . Thanks again the rear end worked great for what I needed
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 5:19 am

bowtiepimp wrote:
Black death 13 wrote:
Thanks for posting My SS Impala ... I tryed but I was stoned this is Rhode Island and we have medical marijauna and that is my meds legal. This is why I stayin RI. .



..... what? affraid ...... how? and where do I get me some? bounce
Oh, here we go. Suspect
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 10:18 am

you'd break 300WHP if you had smaller wheels on it.
You're still measuring power at the rear wheels regardless of the corrections the dyno does
I would estimate you're losing an additional 5-8% of read power

So, assuming a regular tire size would net you 15% loss (on an inertial dyno like a DynoJet224x or 248C) and your tires are probably netting you 22% loss let's look at the numbers:
so, you're saying you got 287whp with your 22s
so, let's take that loss and see what you're getting at crank:
287/.78 = ~368bhp (22% loss)
287/.8 = ~358bhp (20% loss)
287/.82 = ~350bhp (18% loss)

I'll use the low number because it's nice and round.
so 350bhp - 15% (if you used tires with less diameter) is 297.5whp.

Now, these aren't just number I'm making up. I've actually done this test with a few vehicles to determine if 'bigger wheels means less power at the road'. It was one of the articles I wrote for C2 Cars way back in the day...

What we saw was about 1% to 1.5% loss per .5" in diameter difference (wheel weight, width and tire cross section were also part of it)
I believe what we found was 1% loss per 5lbs of rotating mass.

you'll have to excuse my exact numbers. it was over 10 years ago we did this test.


Also, you should really get your camber adjusted (if you haven't already)
You're going to kill the outer shoulders of those rubber bands
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:26 pm

Thanks for all your insight . I will never take off the 22" as I like them. I know that I could make some more power without them. I am not having a 383 Twin Turbo put together that will make 500 Hp to the tires . Just so you know the front end camber is right on it is the photo that makes it look like that. Thanks for all your help
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:29 pm

All I'm saying is if you're hunting for 300whp... it's all in the wheels right now. You can make more power mods to make up for it... but I question why you're concerned with performance. The most important thing in performance is getting power to the ground and that starts with your contact patch.
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:46 pm

I'd just put some stock SS wheels and tires for the drags, and run the 22's for show, lol
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 1:51 pm

Matt Trakker wrote:
I'd just put some stock SS wheels and tires for the drags, and run the 22's for show, lol

Bingo
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:05 pm

Yea just like everyone and that is just not me . I am hoping to get it in the 11's with the 22's on it .But we will see . Thanks to everyone for ther input Twisted Evil
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 2:13 pm

well, good luck with that.
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PostSubject: Re: Went to the DYNO today    Mon Mar 05, 2012 7:39 pm

Black death 13 wrote:
Yea just like everyone and that is just not me . I am hoping to get it in the 11's with the 22's on it .But we will see . Thanks to everyone for ther input Twisted Evil
You just need a set of 15 drag radials, or slicks for the strip only. You will not air those 22s down far enough to get any traction before your tires are flat. Just not enough sidewall. But I like your car. Looks sweet. Arrow
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