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95brmw



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PostSubject: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 9:44 pm

Found this on ebay and placed a bid on it. Much to my surprise I won this thing. I picked it up tonight after spending a whole 2 minutes looking at it in the 20 degree dark and proceeded to sit in my 1A2 and waited for AAA to tow it back for me. I bought it on ebay so I owned it regardless of what it looked like. I had bought this with the intention of it being a winter beater, after a good look over when it got home, I'm not even sure its good for that. Some of you may remeber Lynol's Caprust, well, I think I have a challenger for title of rust bucket.
At any rate, its a 96 DGGM WB4 Roadie with tan cloth guts, 150k. Supposedly has a bad fuel pump. I don't hear the pump when I key it on. More pics to come tomorrow, but for now enjoy these. Southerners may want to view these pics with extreme caution, northerners might think this is a great car.

That receiver is permanently rusted into the hitch


The least of its problems, the spar well


Paint? I we don't need paint!


Wrong year, good tires though


The other side is the same


Flapping in the breeze


Yeah, those will support a fuel tank!


D-pillar rust, only one side


What's going on here?


Rad support delete mod!



Not too bad



Tow pack!


What do you guys think? I see a possible winter beater with some rigging and then a part out.


For fun, here's the original auction, and the CL ad he had listed.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=150719958102&viewitem=#ht_500wt_1182
http://newlondon.craigslist.org/cto/2696578775.html

All in all, I think its worth what I paid in parts, I would not have paid another $1 for this thing as it sits.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:12 pm

Ok seriously dude, you need a 12 step program!
I got a radiator support still if you need it. A-hole didn't come for my wagon yet,
I thought you were getting a caprice wagon???
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:14 pm

I'd hate to see the floors. Interior looks decent.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:15 pm

Lol I just read the PM! It unbolts 2 body bolts and a few fender ones. I'm going back tomorrow for the bumper and pipes. I'll take it off and put it aside.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:19 pm

What rust?

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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:22 pm

Ironfistdog wrote:
Ok seriously dude, you need a 12 step program!
I got a radiator support still if you need it. A-hole didn't come for my wagon yet,
I thought you were getting a caprice wagon???

I am still getting the Caprice, this was an out of nowhere ebay thing Surprised
Please do set aside that rad support, I would have pulled it myself if I had known I needed it. Can you also grab the hood liner too? The one in my good RMW looks like an animal attacked it Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:23 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
What rust?

Keep in mind guys, both of my wagons have no rust issues, so this kind of thing is a huge shock to me.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:30 pm

Man, that is bad, although I've had and seen much worse also! I wonder how the frame/floors and other nooks and crannies are, if they're solid it may be worth ghettoing some patches up and just driving the piss outta it. That radiator support is bad, is that a common thing? My 93's is still pretty nice with some surface rust starting.

My Tahoe has a hitch stuck in the receiver too, I've just been too lazy to finagle it out. My dad tried to get one out of his old Bronco once by tying the hitch to another truck, and the whole platform and receiver crumbled off of the Bronco's frame rails!
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 18, 2011 10:40 pm

I'll have to look at the floor at some point. The tow driver strapped the car down by the hitch because he didn't trust the rear frame, but it didn't look that bad to me. Sure its rusty, but didn't look rotted. I'm thinking the DS quarter is a candiate for some expanding foam Razz

That hitch was a serious pain in the ass when it came to towing. Lifting and dropping off the car was a hassle because that thing kept digging into the ground. I seriously doubt the 2 parts will ever separate, it has a locking pin on it that appears to be one with the hitch at this point.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:15 am

And now some day pics. Doesn't look too bad






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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:22 am

throw some snow tires on it and beat the bag out of it for the winter.. after drive it to the jink yard and get $5-600 for that boat
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 8:52 am

I mean... Like, how many cars do you need? Like... Seriously? Who does that? Wink


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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:44 am

toomanytoyz wrote:
I mean... Like, how many cars do you need? Like... Seriously? Who does that? Wink


Oh, there's a select few that excel in that field Razz
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:47 am

Is it wrong i'm staring at the car while formulating a shopping list? Twisted Evil

Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 10:16 am

rivet in a patch for the rad support and ignore any thoughts that it is "un-safe" and just beat the shit out of it and pull the tags on the good wagons this winter until this one is...ya know....two pieces! Then grab the good parts and send the rest to china to make some toy cars and grills and stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:50 am

Thanks for making me feel a little better about my wagon... Laughing

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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:56 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
Is it wrong i'm staring at the car while formulating a shopping list? Twisted Evil

Laughing

The vultures are circling already I see

1984twodoor wrote:
rivet in a patch for the rad support and ignore any thoughts that it is "un-safe" and just beat the shit out of it and pull the tags on the good wagons this winter until this one is...ya know....two pieces! Then grab the good parts and send the rest to china to make some toy cars and grills and stuff.

That the plan, hopefully get a pump in it this week and see what it can do. One of my co-workers is going to fabricate some tank straps for me, no matter what they end up looking like it will be an upgrade. Then I can use the straps that are on it now to support the rad Razz
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 12:59 pm

95brmw wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Is it wrong i'm staring at the car while formulating a shopping list? Twisted Evil

Laughing

The vultures are circling already I see

Arrow

You know it!
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 4:46 pm

If I were to bother with doing a fuel pump, I'd do whatever I had to in order to make the car streetable with as little monetary investment as possible, and drive it as long as possible to get my money/time back out of the fuel pump thing as opposed to one winter. However more issues could arise from driving it longer of course...lol
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 5:44 pm

I think we found our lemons car for next summer! cheers


Dave beat it up this winter and then sell it for 300 bucks to another member and we all can go race lol! Seems ok to me Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 9:52 pm

Made a little progress tonight. Got the tank down and fuel pump out. The sending unit broke as I took the tank out due to tons of rust on the lines. Good thing I have a spare one out of a TBI car. The hose connections look the same, just gotta mount a pump on it. I got some scrap strips of steel from my work, going to try to make some new tank straps out of them. Looks like the PO or some chop shop went to change the pump, cut the straps off, saw the rusted lines and rigged it back into place. The goal is to spend as little as possible to get this thing driveable. Its a real shame that this car is so rusted out, it looks to be pretty decent inside and out unless you look where the salt got to it. Check out some new pics below.


My tank draining contraption made out of a pump from my old custom cruiser. Worked well to drain the 16 gallons of gas out of this thing cheers



The half-ass straps that held the tank on. The eye hook was slipped over the stud of the original tank strap screws No



Look, no rust!


This is actually the only part of the frame that looks at all compromised


Relatively clean interior







Messy cargo area, lots of gravel in it



Rust: the ever lasting bond


Not sure how this thing gets this rusty

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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 19, 2011 11:56 pm

That car doesn't have a clue what the term "car wash" means...poor thing. Surprised
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:15 pm

Its alive! cheers

Got my fancy new airtex pump in (cars I know I will be keeping get Delco). The TBI sending units are very similar to LT1 ones, the way the pump mounts on is different, buts it a bolt in replacement otherwise. With some help from a co-worker, I got some straps made up for the tank out of scrap. And they are made out of stainless steel as a bonus! Got it all mounted up, fed it a few gallons and she fired right up, idles smooth. Took it out for a trip around the block and everything seems ok, so the drivetrain is at least good. Now with a little rad rigging and some shocks up front this thing should be good for the winter.





Terrible video of it starting in the dark
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Tue Dec 20, 2011 11:23 pm

NICE Now you can keep the good wagons nice for the winter! If it lasts keep it around for a beater for as long as you can for what you ended up paying.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:00 pm

I figured some of you could use a dose of Christmas rust. Pulled the interior out of this thing to assess the floor pans and found almost nothing in the back, I mean no metal. The front DS pan is the best out of all of them (somehow). I was half thinking this thing was going to look like Matt's 2-door, but I think its slightly more solid, but only slightly.


Finally! Easy access to that damn O2 sensor cheers


Yup, thats a drive shaft






That was load-bearing carpet in the back


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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 3:41 pm

DAYYYUM, and I thought the floors in Indy's '94 were bad.

Looks like my shopping list will come to fruition sooner Twisted Evil Wink
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:30 pm

Yeah, his wagon seems pretty damn solid compared to this. Don't get your list out yet, some redneck repairs with trash are under way. The trash I speak of is old computer cases. I think the only thing this will cost me in repairs is a couple dozen rivets and a can or 2 of expanding foam Very Happy




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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 5:35 pm

Computer cases, now THAT is genius lol!
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 6:57 pm

Jesus! It looks like that rot came up from underneath through the floor, rather than from moisture in the car. I figured you'd "fix" it since you bothered with the pump. Odd because while rotted it looks kind of dry under the carpet and in the car. Maybe it's just been sitting a long time? How is the load floor?

Makes me feel good about my car for sure, lol. I'd better paint the underneath now!
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Sun Dec 25, 2011 11:20 pm

95brmw wrote:

That was load-bearing carpet in the back

Razz

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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:12 am

Matt Trakker wrote:
Jesus! It looks like that rot came up from underneath through the floor, rather than from moisture in the car. I figured you'd "fix" it since you bothered with the pump. Odd because while rotted it looks kind of dry under the carpet and in the car. Maybe it's just been sitting a long time? How is the load floor?

Makes me feel good about my car for sure, lol. I'd better paint the underneath now!

The was definitely moisture under the carpet it was actually frozen to the floor pans. I'm pretty sure leaks played a role in this, there is some bubbling rust by the vista glass and I found water under the rocker covers. I wouldn't have bothered fixing it if I had to spend serious amounts of cash on it, but using scrap metal and buying few rivets and foam doesn't bother me.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:52 am

Sleep Sleep Sleep pffft BOOOORRRRRRRINGGGGGGG








^^Foam is legit dude...

Laughing

I love the computer case idea! That's awesome I'm surprised you didn't use a tractor hood! That thing is ripe! Glad you'll be driving it though! Always a good story to tell that ass hole in the toyota!
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:38 am

Look at it this way Matt, your fuel economy went up since most of the metal was replaced by foam Very Happy

I almost grabbed a tractor hood for this, but I found a computer lid in my yard that fit perfectly without any cutting. I have some small gaps to cover up yet, I found some baseboard heating covers in my neighbor's dumpster from their remodel that will fit this perfectly. And as a bonus, I found a half can of foam in there too! Its a damn good thing carpeting covers this mess lol.

The back area looks solid, I think the quarter panel absorbed all the moisture Razz
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 12:27 pm

Remove the paneling that covers the rear wheel wells, if you havn't yet. That is the only spot I found rust in my completely rust free wagon.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 4:46 pm

GasTT wrote:
Remove the paneling that covers the rear wheel wells, if you havn't yet. That is the only spot I found rust in my completely rust free wagon.

Looked there already, that is the one spot on this thing that isn't rotted through. The right one has surface rust on it, but thats about it.
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PostSubject: Re: My new bucket   Mon Dec 26, 2011 11:58 pm

My faithful old 94 run of the mill old gold rusty roady was the same way,.
i layed down cardboard then mixed up fibreglass resin and poured it over it,it soaked into the cardboard easily,.. the second coat was fibreglass mat randomly cut and layed into a still wet thick coat of resin,.
I lent the car to a freind and he overheated it and blew it up,. was a shame, was the best damn wagon i,ve ever owned and worked very hard for me, and the family all loved the muffler delete mod,.*sigh* rad was held in with chicken wire,. sorry for the hijack,.
keep up the good work,.

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