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MASShole9C1



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PostSubject: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:11 pm

I was unaware that the LS got its own dash plaque. Is it a rare thing or more common than I think? Ive never owned an LS and the only two in the club I know of would have been Fishers old white one and Tim's black one he was trying to sell. Maybe Cloud9's is one as well...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-CAPRICE-CLASSIC-LS-DASH-EMBLEM-OEM-94-95-96-/290551900768?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a63e2a60
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:15 pm

MASShole9C1 wrote:
I was unaware that the LS got its own dash plaque. Is it a rare thing or more common than I think? Ive never owned an LS and the only two in the club I know of would have been Fishers old white one and Tim's black one he was trying to sell. Maybe Cloud9's is one as well...
http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-CAPRICE-CLASSIC-LS-DASH-EMBLEM-OEM-94-95-96-/290551900768?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&vxp=mtr&hash=item43a63e2a60

While my car was technically an LS, it was also an LTZ so it only carried LTZ badges. Also the style of badge you linked I believe was never on TBI cars.

Tim's car is definitely an LS, so he'd know best if they come with the plaque.

The LS cars themselves aren't that rare in general, but now that you mention it I don't think there are many in the club.





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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:19 pm

They do have a special plaque. The one you linked.



They also have LS emblems on the front fenders.

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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 9:41 pm

I got the one on my dash, but I took the fender ones off.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:36 pm

I think I have one of those in the glove box of my Caprice, pulled it off one at a yard. I decided I liked the bow tie better, but here they are for comparison.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:59 pm

Thanks for the info. What are some of the differences between an LS/LTZ and, I guess, a regular Caprice.
We all know what a B4U, 9C1, and Impala are, educate me. I almost never see an LS/LTZ on C/L...
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:08 pm

The LS trim package is the luxury package for Caprices. It includes things like leather, power, etc.

The LTZ was a chassis package for Caprice that was only available in 1991-1993.

The LTZ package included all of the upgraded suspension and HD parts from the 9C1 (including the 5.7 V8 for 1993 only).

When you combine the two packages, you get a car that combines all of the civilian luxuries with all of the Police HD equipment. The LTZ was also the only way to get a 5.7 Engine in a Civilian TBI Sedan.

In 1994 they discontinued the LTZ and released the Impala SS.

The Impala SS was essentially the replacement for the LTZ, because it includes most of the upgraded 9C1 parts and combines that with the Civilian luxuries.

The LS moniker was never discontinued, and kept being used on future civilian Caprices and still referred to the luxury package.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:32 am

Fishah wrote:
The LS trim package is the luxury package for Caprices. It includes things like leather, power, etc.

The LTZ was a chassis package for Caprice that was only available in 1991-1993.

The LTZ package included all of the upgraded suspension and HD parts from the 9C1 (including the 5.7 V8 for 1993 only).

When you combine the two packages, you get a car that combines all of the civilian luxuries with all of the Police HD equipment. The LTZ was also the only way to get a 5.7 Engine in a Civilian TBI Sedan.

In 1994 they discontinued the LTZ and released the Impala SS.

The Impala SS was essentially the replacement for the LTZ, because it includes most of the upgraded 9C1 parts and combines that with the Civilian luxuries.

The LS moniker was never discontinued, and kept being used on future civilian Caprices and still referred to the luxury package.

Thanks for the lesson. If I ever buy a "clean" B again, it'll be a TBI one, maybe a '93 LTZ! Still sums it up that WX3 means its still a Caprice(with Impala SS trim) tho lol...wait for it... bounce...someone will get mad...
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 1:58 am

My wife's black 93 that Justin's brother owns now is an LS.

I liked the 93 ltz I had better,
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 5:49 am

GasTT wrote:
They do have a special plaque. The one you linked.



They also have LS emblems on the front fenders.



Is that wood grain the LS package also? I like it.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 7:25 am

Fishah wrote:
The LS trim package is the luxury package for Caprices. It includes things like leather, power, etc.

The LTZ was a chassis package for Caprice that was only available in 1991-1993.

The LTZ package included all of the upgraded suspension and HD parts from the 9C1 (including the 5.7 V8 for 1993 only).

When you combine the two packages, you get a car that combines all of the civilian luxuries with all of the Police HD equipment. The LTZ was also the only way to get a 5.7 Engine in a Civilian TBI Sedan.

In 1994 they discontinued the LTZ and released the Impala SS.

The Impala SS was essentially the replacement for the LTZ, because it includes most of the upgraded 9C1 parts and combines that with the Civilian luxuries.

The LS moniker was never discontinued, and kept being used on future civilian Caprices and still referred to the luxury package.

The LTZ also had the digital dash.

Speaking of the LS. They run the gamut option wise. I've seen them with the optional velor cloth with power everything. But then theres my brothers LS... manual seats and mirrors but the, optional velor cloth seats, LS badging, grill and climate control with the idiot lights
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 12:41 pm

The 94 LS I got that plaqe out of what a pretty nice car, it really pissed me off that it was in the yard. It was black with cloth red guts, power everything, twilight sentinel, wood around the radio, posi rear end and an lt1. The thing had no rust or damage on it besides a dent on the fender.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Tue Nov 29, 2011 8:33 pm

95brmw wrote:
The 94 LS I got that plaqe out of what a pretty nice car, it really pissed me off that it was in the yard. It was black with cloth red guts, power everything, twilight sentinel, wood around the radio, posi rear end and an lt1. The thing had no rust or damage on it besides a dent on the fender.

I HATE seeing that. Last year there was a mint B4U LDM power everything with leather in the yard with 58k miles. It looked like old people(snow birds) had it. It had a bunch of paper work from florida in the glove box. Someone smashed all the windows so the leather was wrecked from rain/snow. Oh well.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Wed Nov 30, 2011 9:51 pm

MASShole9C1 wrote:
95brmw wrote:
The 94 LS I got that plaqe out of what a pretty nice car, it really pissed me off that it was in the yard. It was black with cloth red guts, power everything, twilight sentinel, wood around the radio, posi rear end and an lt1. The thing had no rust or damage on it besides a dent on the fender.

I HATE seeing that. Last year there was a mint B4U LDM power everything with leather in the yard with 58k miles. It looked like old people(snow birds) had it. It had a bunch of paper work from florida in the glove box. Someone smashed all the windows so the leather was wrecked from rain/snow. Oh well.

Surprised Surprised Surprised It's the worst sight to see!
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Thu Dec 01, 2011 11:23 am

GasTT wrote:


I love these tires! I've got the same Cool
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Thu Dec 01, 2011 4:25 pm



Me too!
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Thu Dec 01, 2011 9:45 pm

ME THREE!



They're going on the cougar this Summer I think! Then I'm going to autocross it LOL Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:00 am

Me4?




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When you AutoX on these tires, be sure to air them up to 45PSI or so. Beware that you will get some noticeable sidewall roll, so airing them up will help minimize that effect.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:38 am

Fishah wrote:
Me4?




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When you AutoX on these tires, be sure to air them up to 45PSI or so. Beware that you will get some noticeable sidewall roll, so airing them up will help minimize that effect.

Thanks for the tip Fishah Arrow

I was told by the guy at firestone they discod raised white letter firehawks due to lack of interest. No I hope some places will still carry them for a while.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:59 am

1984twodoor wrote:
Fishah wrote:
Me4?




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When you AutoX on these tires, be sure to air them up to 45PSI or so. Beware that you will get some noticeable sidewall roll, so airing them up will help minimize that effect.

Thanks for the tip Fishah Arrow

I was told by the guy at firestone they discod raised white letter firehawks due to lack of interest. No I hope some places will still carry them for a while.

A guy at Firestone told me the same thing 5 years ago. It seems like they produce them in batches so availability is spotty. I don't think they are officially discontinued though.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:45 am

not available down here they told me they cant get them
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 9:49 am

Fishah wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:
Fishah wrote:
Me4?




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When you AutoX on these tires, be sure to air them up to 45PSI or so. Beware that you will get some noticeable sidewall roll, so airing them up will help minimize that effect.

Thanks for the tip Fishah Arrow

I was told by the guy at firestone they discod raised white letter firehawks due to lack of interest. No I hope some places will still carry them for a while.

A guy at Firestone told me the same thing 5 years ago. It seems like they produce them in batches so availability is spotty. I don't think they are officially discontinued though.

I hope that they will be around when I get the caprice back in roadworthy shape. I'd like to run them again.
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PostSubject: Still offered at Tire rack for most of our sizes   Fri Dec 02, 2011 11:51 am

Still offered at Tire rack for most of our sizes
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:06 pm

^Yea I noticed that too. I want to buy 2 more skinnier 255s for the back of my car so I have a matched set, the 295s are a little worn in the center.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 12:11 pm

Check the availability: "fewer than 3"

Both 225/70 and 235/70 are under 3 available.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 2:04 pm

Plenty of them around, another place Onlinetires.com has them . (235-70-15 for $80 ea).
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:11 pm

I am an assistant manager at a tire shop. Availability is limited. Tire rack wholesale shows only two in stock in 2357015.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:12 pm

Hmmm, maybe I should get them now since those are what I really want for my 15x8's....
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:22 pm

Choices are slim for RWL. One that is readily available is bfg radial ta.




But I think the Caprice LS came with a ww tire. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:24 pm

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Hmmm, maybe I should get them now since those are what I really want for my 15x8's....

Yes I would buy them if you can get them now and it's what you want.

The BFG's are the suck.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:26 pm

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The BFG's are the suck.

Damn, that was my next choice if I couldn't get the Firehawks.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 5:36 pm

Cadet57 wrote:
Fishah wrote:


The BFG's are the suck.

Damn, that was my next choice if I couldn't get the Firehawks.

I had 255/60/15 BFG Radial T/A's on my wagon, and they were the worse tires I've ever driven on.

Not sure if it was just that set.... But I'd never buy those tires.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 6:41 pm

Yeah, I like the BFGs but they are mostly a cosmetic tire. I may switch to running blackwalls in the future. They don't handle bad, the ones on my Impala are good, but the Firehawk is smoother and quieter, and also seems more surefooted in the rain. The BFGs do last a pretty long time. The thing is the tire has been made since the 70s, with the current sidewall design dating to the early 80s or maybe even the very late 70s, and the tread design dating back to maybe the mid-late 1980s. They're old!
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:06 pm

Fishah wrote:
Cadet57 wrote:
Fishah wrote:


The BFG's are the suck.

Damn, that was my next choice if I couldn't get the Firehawks.

I had 255/60/15 BFG Radial T/A's on my wagon, and they were the worse tires I've ever driven on.

Not sure if it was just that set.... But I'd never buy those tires.

No, it wasnt just your set. I'm with you, I'll never buy a BFG again

Matt Trakker wrote:
......... The BFGs do last a pretty long time. .

Thier only good point. I've been trying to shake the BFG's I have.
To cheap to just throw them out, I need to wear them off.

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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:21 pm

Do you have Radial T/As, or those KDW tires for the SS that are giving you problems? I'd think they're totally different tires...the Radial T/A is from years before Michelin even considered buying the company, lol.

BFG does have some great tires, the Long Trail T/A Tour seems to be a great product, while the Rugged Trail T/A seems kind of crappy to me. The All Terrain T/A is awesome but is kind of overpriced. You can get 80K out of a set though...
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Fri Dec 02, 2011 10:30 pm

Yes, the KDW's I have them in 17 & 18" directional both are awful.
I wont put them ALL down, but I'll never buy BFG again.
Many better choices for the SS out there.

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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sat Dec 03, 2011 12:50 am

Matt Trakker wrote:
Yeah, I like the BFGs but they are mostly a cosmetic tire. I may switch to running blackwalls in the future. They don't handle bad, the ones on my Impala are good, but the Firehawk is smoother and quieter, and also seems more surefooted in the rain. The BFGs do last a pretty long time. The thing is the tire has been made since the 70s, with the current sidewall design dating to the early 80s or maybe even the very late 70s, and the tread design dating back to maybe the mid-late 1980s. They're old!


I'm with Matt on this one. I like the T/A as a cruising tire but if I had any intentions of really turning or anything I'd go with the firehawks. With the limited high speed curves the two door went through (and stalled in if the tank wasn't full...) I always felt safe on those tires. Pretty grippy I must say. That being said I would buy BFGs for a truck (all terrains) and T/As for a car like Matts Impala that wouldn't see many high speed turns if any at all. Just my $0.02 Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sat Dec 03, 2011 1:25 am

1984twodoor wrote:
Matt Trakker wrote:
Yeah, I like the BFGs but they are mostly a cosmetic tire. I may switch to running blackwalls in the future. They don't handle bad, the ones on my Impala are good, but the Firehawk is smoother and quieter, and also seems more surefooted in the rain. The BFGs do last a pretty long time. The thing is the tire has been made since the 70s, with the current sidewall design dating to the early 80s or maybe even the very late 70s, and the tread design dating back to maybe the mid-late 1980s. They're old!


I'm with Matt on this one. I like the T/A as a cruising tire but if I had any intentions of really turning or anything I'd go with the firehawks. With the limited high speed curves the two door went through (and stalled in if the tank wasn't full...) I always felt safe on those tires. Pretty grippy I must say. That being said I would buy BFGs for a truck (all terrains) and T/As for a car like Matts Impala that wouldn't see many high speed turns if any at all. Just my $0.02 Arrow

I didn't hate my BFG's because they didn't turn well.... I hated them because they wandered all over the road and didn't ride smooth.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:37 am

Fishah wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:
Matt Trakker wrote:
Yeah, I like the BFGs but they are mostly a cosmetic tire. I may switch to running blackwalls in the future. They don't handle bad, the ones on my Impala are good, but the Firehawk is smoother and quieter, and also seems more surefooted in the rain. The BFGs do last a pretty long time. The thing is the tire has been made since the 70s, with the current sidewall design dating to the early 80s or maybe even the very late 70s, and the tread design dating back to maybe the mid-late 1980s. They're old!


I'm with Matt on this one. I like the T/A as a cruising tire but if I had any intentions of really turning or anything I'd go with the firehawks. With the limited high speed curves the two door went through (and stalled in if the tank wasn't full...) I always felt safe on those tires. Pretty grippy I must say. That being said I would buy BFGs for a truck (all terrains) and T/As for a car like Matts Impala that wouldn't see many high speed turns if any at all. Just my $0.02 Arrow

I didn't hate my BFG's because they didn't turn well.... I hated them because they wandered all over the road and didn't ride smooth.

In my experience they rode very nicely scratch Maybe it was a shitty set? Could just be personal preference too.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sun Dec 04, 2011 6:05 am

what about cooper cobra radial gt? never used em but my brother swears by them.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sun Dec 04, 2011 10:29 am

Yeah, stay away from BFG. They are teh SUCK!!!! But at least their tires are mostly round. That's about the only nice thing I can say about them. The only good tire that they make that I would run is the All Terrain truck tires. The rest is crap.

Get the Firestones. I loved my Indy 500's!!!! I've also had good luck with my General Exclaim UHP's, too, believe it or not. Will buy another set of those...

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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Sun Dec 04, 2011 12:17 pm

Cooper cobras hard to find too.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Wed Dec 21, 2011 12:18 pm

Just for everybodys information, the firestone firehawk is expected again around the second week of january.
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Wed Dec 21, 2011 3:37 pm

GasTT wrote:
Just for everybodys information, the firestone firehawk is expected again around the second week of january.


Arrow This is GOOD news!
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:26 pm

GasTT wrote:
Just for everybodys information, the firestone firehawk is expected again around the second week of january.

In 235/70? SWEET!
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PostSubject: Re: I didnt know this   Wed Dec 21, 2011 5:36 pm

Yes, in 235/70. According to Tire Rack. I'll call some of my tire suppliers tomorrow and ask.
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