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Whoa whoa whoa. Back the F@&K up...... What the hell was that engine in?????
Did I miss something???

And I laughed my ass off at that engine debacle! As I was reading I was imagining you in fast forward with the Benny Hill theme playing!
It takes stuff like this to learn. We all gotta start someplace. All my car and engine knowledge (or at least 80% of it) came from working on a 1980 2 door caprice and a 1970 impala. First engine pulls I did. Good job and it only gets easier. Wink
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Machine-De-Zine wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:

I thought about it, but I had nothing useable sitting around that I could get to. If I had a truck available to go grab a sheet, I wouldn't have needed it and I would have put the engine in the truck and the hoist in the shed. Problem solved. But of course no one with a pickup was around. This was one of those learning moments.

This project is fun either way! I'm happy I'm going through with it. Though there are guys that live close I forgot to call silent it wont happen again Matt and Dave lol!
Could you have just laid the motor & trans "sloppy-like" back on top of the chassis, relocated the unloaded cherry-picker into the back of the shed - (facing out), rolled the bare rolling chassis with it's front end nosed into the shed (now with motor & trans along for the ride), and then re-hooked the unit & raised the cherry-picker boom up high, then rolled the motor-less chassis back outside, , , DONE!?
This way you don't have to move the crane anywhere at all with any real weight on it.

Thought about it...kinda...then I didn't try it. It would have been the right idea. Should have done that. I also should have just pulled it perpendicular to the shed, had an engine stand in the doorway twisted the motor towards it and bolted it on. This was a learning experience....I learned all of the wrong ways to do it!

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Is that TPI engine going in your box? That would be sweet. cheers

It WAS in the Red Caprice. That car was awesome I love you BUT it's been sitting, I'd need a buncha new parts, not to mention sorting out the wire harness. On the other hand, I have the right manifold for the heads, a good carb, and the white body has a carb harness in it....so yeah no brainer to me. Maybe I'll use that set up some other time. But the tupperware bin FULL to the top with the TPI harness...Big turn off. Maybe when I have more patience sometime down the road Arrow
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1984twodoor wrote:
IMPALADAKID wrote:
Is that TPI engine going in your box? That would be sweet. cheers

It WAS in the Red Caprice. That car was awesome I love you BUT it's been sitting, I'd need a buncha new parts, not to mention sorting out the wire harness. On the other hand, I have the right manifold for the heads, a good carb, and the white body has a carb harness in it....so yeah no brainer to me. Maybe I'll use that set up some other time. But the tupperware bin FULL to the top with the TPI harness...Big turn off. Maybe when I have more patience sometime down the road Arrow
That is too bad. A fairly easy swap if you have the TPI harness. Rolling Eyes Now would be the time to do it. Arrow

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Ummmm Call me. I live less than 10 minutes away.... I was gonna sugest the plywood but Impalakid beat me to it.
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Stop being a pussy and use the TPI motor. Sitting schmitting. My wagon was sitting for yeeeears and boom it started right up and runs excellent.
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GasTT wrote:
Stop being a pussy and use the TPI motor. Sitting schmitting. My wagon was sitting for yeeeears and boom it started right up and runs excellent.



.... Its a GM motor from the 80's...... Dont care how long it was sitting, if it was running when parked it will run again elephant
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I Dropped an engine from the 70's that was sitting since the 80's into something once and it still fired right up. Smoked like a bastard from valve seals but still rotated and ran.
I say drop it in and we have a mini mod day at casa de Matt's. I'm the wire guy bro lol.... It can be really easy for ya Wink
And a 200+ hp engine compared to a garbage stock 305 135hp engine is night and day. Smile
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Ironfistdog wrote:
I Dropped an engine from the 70's that was sitting since the 80's into something once and it still fired right up. Smoked like a bastard from valve seals but still rotated and ran.
I say drop it in and we have a mini mod day at casa de Matt's. I'm the wire guy bro lol.... It can be really easy for ya Wink
And a 200+ hp engine compared to a garbage stock 305 135hp engine is night and day. Smile
Yes Yes. Yes. Someone bring a wire diagram of the caprice, and one for a F-body or y-body and we can get that sucka running. To hell with carbs. Lat time I rebuilt a carburetor I fell off my dinosaurs. Razz

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Last time I rebuilt a carburetor I fell off my dinosaur. Razz
I had to log in to guote this LMFAO!!!!! (btw, I fixt your S's...)
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In the first page of this thread I rebuked the LT1 idea, I also will say no to the TPI so don't try anymore convincing. Would it be cool? Hell yeah! Do I want it right now? Hell no. The car had a carb when it came off the road, it'll have a carb when I put it back on the road. I'm sticking to the carb, for now at least. Things may change over the winter when I do the engine work, but chances are they wont. If I switched to TPI that engine would be stroked to 383 ci, then get L98 heads, then new TPI stuff, then a T5/T56 manual swap.

That being said. Thank you guys for offering to help swap to TPI, I really do appreciate it and love being part of this club because you guys will always offer to help! But it's not something that I have planned for right now. If you look at the first paragraph again, you'll see that I do have future plans for the tuned port stuff lol! (the future means a few more years, chances are after all of this I'll still have the car.)

Call me a pussy if you want to, I have good ignoring skills Wink Again thank you all for input/offers to help, but I don't want to do that swap just yet.

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454 big block TH400 trans. cheers

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IMPALADAKID wrote:
454 big block TH400 trans. cheers

Lol! Maybe if I was making a drag car, I just want something sweet on the street Cool

Now a woody box wagon with a 454(or larger) wouldn't be a bad idea. Arrow
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1984twodoor wrote:
IMPALADAKID wrote:
454 big block TH400 trans. cheers

Lol! Maybe if I was making a drag car, I just want something sweet on the street Cool

Now a woody box wagon with a 454(or larger) wouldn't be a bad idea. Arrow


You might say it's a bad idea when you have to fill the tank. 4,500+ lbs, a 454, and no overdrive...........BOO pale


Oh and BTW............


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V8Killer wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:
IMPALADAKID wrote:
454 big block TH400 trans. cheers

Lol! Maybe if I was making a drag car, I just want something sweet on the street Cool

Now a woody box wagon with a 454(or larger) wouldn't be a bad idea. Arrow


You might say it's a bad idea when you have to fill the tank. 4,500+ lbs, a 454, and no overdrive...........BOO pale


Oh and BTW............


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Hey, I never said I was gonna do it Laughing


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1984twodoor wrote:
In the first page of this thread I rebuked the LT1 idea, I also will say no to the TPI so don't try anymore convincing.


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Matt when are you going to make Tommy your avatar for this site? You use that pic enough lol
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Look, no rubbers on the tranny lines! I knew it would work.

Are you going to paint the car black? It seems to be a popular color right now.
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I'm going to be getting my 9c1 painted black. (sssshhhhhh, after putting a new rear bumper on the cvpi, we had it resprayed last week, from blue with a new white rear bumper cover, to a very nice shiny black. Looks Sharp tho. Ditched the granny covers for some poverty caps too. Rustolium gloss black wheels, FTW!)
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Look, no rubbers on the tranny lines! I knew it would work.

Are you going to paint the car black? It seems to be a popular color right now.

I'm going for the white trash rat rod look actually. White with doors in primer with a red nose like Rudolph Smile

I'm re-using those tranny lines too Arrow gotta save some money on this!
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A section of the lines on the LT1 cars is rubber. I read on the internet that the cooler must have the rubber section or the lines will break.
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boojum wrote:
A section of the lines on the LT1 cars is rubber. I read on the internet that the cooler must have the rubber section or the lines will break.

Where'd you read that?? I had an external cooler on my rat rod (no place on the factory radiator)
It was zip tied to the frame and I had solid lines going to it with no issues.

Wonder if there's any truth in that? scratch
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Only if theres no stress relieving bends in the lines & the vibration & movement is bestowed upon the hard line
If you have a couple of direction changes & have rubber anywhere involved (in this case the radiator supports cushions) your safe.
Thats not to say that your toast without this....just a gamble (that you dont want to lose)

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Only if theres no stress relieving bends in the lines & the vibration & movement is bestowed upon the hard line
If you have a couple of direction changes & have rubber anywhere involved (in this case the radiator supports cushions) your safe.
Thats not to say that your toast without this....just a gamble (that you dont want to lose)

That's good to know stuff, I know I don't want to lose that gamble Surprised

These lines were actually three pieces if that makes sense. Looks like someone didn't want to bend up a big one and mimicked factory lines with three different pieces. Thankfully they're new and all came apart without hassle.
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Now you can understand why all cars having fixed (body-mounted) master cylinders, get away with having their hard lines running directly to the ladder-frame chassis mounted proportioning/combo valve.
The body, with it's firewall mounted brake master, is rubber flex connected (somewhat independently) of the chassis with no issues.
The solution to this dilemma is the OEM's inclusion of an approximately 4" diameter multiple loop "coil" of hard brake line just off the master cylinder.
The bends in those long single run trans lines act as "flex-elements", so that forces (cyclic vibrations) aren't transferred directly into the relatively fragile connection points.
If the OEMs could save even just one inch of brake line per vehicle, they would absolutely run these lines in straight & direct trajectories from source to destination point!
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I'd better fix the Suburban lines soon.

And the Blazer, even if only yard driven.
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Awesome progress, Matt! Smile And thanks for the laugh! Very Happy

And Glenn... No shit. I always wondered what the coils were for! I assumed cooiling. Huh. Too cool. Thanks for that! Smile

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Machine-De-Zine wrote:
Now you can understand why all cars having fixed (body-mounted) master cylinders, get away with having their hard lines running directly to the ladder-frame chassis mounted proportioning/combo valve.
The body, with it's firewall mounted brake master, is rubber flex connected (somewhat independently) of the chassis with no issues.
The solution to this dilemma is the OEM's inclusion of an approximately 4" diameter multiple loop "coil" of hard brake line just off the master cylinder.
The bends in those long single run trans lines act as "flex-elements", so that forces (cyclic vibrations) aren't transferred directly into the relatively fragile connection points.
If the OEMs could save even just one inch of brake line per vehicle, they would absolutely run these lines in straight & direct trajectories from source to destination point!

I can honestly say I never thought twice about why the coils were there! Thank you once again for useful info Glen! You're a keeper on this site! Arrow

toomanytoyz wrote:
Awesome progress, Matt! Smile And thanks for the laugh! Very Happy

And Glenn... No shit. I always wondered what the coils were for! I assumed cooiling. Huh. Too cool. Thanks for that! Smile

Thanks Crocodile! Glad I could give you a laugh or two... I think Razz I plan on doing some more work tomorrow, I just don't know on what yet. Probably rust repair, and then making a big parts order pale
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I didn't do too much today and I got home from dad's when it was a little too cold (for some effed up reasons...it's freakin June!) to do any work in the tent and too dark to just be outside so I fired up the light in the shed for what was supposed to be 10 minutes of organization and that turned into something completely different! Once the ball gets rolling it's hard to stop!

Well I know you all don't want to see this but that's just the way she goes!
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This is off, for now at least. I have a feeling I'll pull it back out in the future.

Camera batteries died early and I didn't get new ones until AFTER I finished for then night. Other wise there would be tons of pictures in here. Including the snail shells and mouse shit that was underneath the plenum.

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And yeah, the chevy orange water pump was never my idea BTW! My dad wanted to see how it would look back when he did the WP in 07
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So that's all you'll see of the engine until I spend another later night out in the shed working again. Or I want to work on my project and it's raining, the tent still sucks in the rain!
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Today was a day of frame work. The goal is to get it as far down to bare frame rails as possible and I'm almost done with the front. I need to take off the lower motor mount portions and I need to get the RH lower Control arm off! ONE dang bolt is too stubborn to come out! But that's ok, I can handle it! I also Have to drill out the RH sway bar mounting bolts. LH side came out without a hitch, then the RH ones round as soon as I look at them! Mad

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The day started out in two directions you could say... Laughing
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Any suggestions here? I tried hammering a socket on but that got old quick! And brought me no where. I thought about an E-Z Out socket or something like that but have never used them. Opinions and suggestions on what to use is appreciated!
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SCORE! A clean LH lower control arm! barely has any surface rust! I plan on pressing new bushings/ ball joint into it and painting it, good deal to me!
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This was certainly a good feeling! Watching the old parts pile up!
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Anyone else see the alligator head??? Laughing Or maybe it's a Crocodile!
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Not 100% completion of goals but pretty damn close! I can finish up tomorrow after work.
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oil, heat, oil, heat, oil, repeat and:

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They have short ones. Sears has a Craftsman version (probably made by Irwin).

Want to know more?
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boojum wrote:
oil, heat, oil, heat, oil, repeat and:

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They have short ones. Sears has a Craftsman version (probably made by Irwin).

Want to know more?

Thank you! Gonna have to make a trip tonight!
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I bought a set of these in standard sizes (still need the metrics) but short ones a few years ago....one of the best tools I ever bought! They have them right in advance or home depot too. EXCELLENT!!!!!
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Your car is coming along really nice man.

Don't sweat running a carb man. To be 100% honest I will take one ANY day of the week over the TPI setup...

If you need any help rebuilding, acquiring one or etc, let me know I can set one up for you no problem.
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bfurches wrote:
Your car is coming along really nice man.

Don't sweat running a carb man. To be 100% honest I will take one ANY day of the week over the TPI setup...

If you need any help rebuilding, acquiring one or etc, let me know I can set one up for you no problem.

I have an Eddy 1406 for now that will get me by but I'd like to learn more/broaden my horizons to different makes and learn to properly tune a carb and change jets and all of that.

Then again, right now I'm concentrating on the frame with the very little time I have to work on it. But I HAVE to get the body on the frame before summer ends or I'm sunk. The engine can wait until winter when I freeze my nards off in the shed!
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Well independence day brought some progress to me as I didn't have any work for a few days and I'm darn glad about that! Now I dont see an assembled frame in the yard! The next step I have to do is practice my welding and then fix some of the body mounts and a tiny crack by the LH Pos # 3 mount hole. Of course after that is taking it to bare metal...and then painting it...and then a new rear end and all new front suspension....so yeah...PROGRESS! Arrow

Well to start remember those rounded sway bar bracket bolts? I got the IRWIN Bolt Grip set and the expansion, which was good because that had the socket I needed in it, and let me say that it is a GREAT investment. I got them both out in a few minutes with barely any heating done.
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Then I think I kind of lost focus and did this
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I mean I have to take it all off anyway but I was gonna wait. LOL

Back on track I got this damn control arm out, The bolt was in there good and I couldn't get a hammer and punch close enough to push it through so I heated it and broke the bolt and both ends...It worked so I'm not gonna think twice.
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And of course those rear springs came out with it too.^

At this point I switched gears a bit and went into the tent to finish off the day. What happened next was awesome! cheers cheers I got the LH Pos # 7 mount out and that was a big deal to me! Now I have to weld the nut for # 6 though, which kinda blows but I'm over it.
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Then this morning I went back at it and had some more success. I got the rear end out and now the frame is bare! I am ready to fix, clean, and rebuild the frame now. That'll take up the rest of July at least though. But I'm excited bounce rabbit
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So this week has been pretty good to me. Next week the guy I work for in the day is out of town and I'll be doing work at his house for him split between doing work on this frame. Hopefully I'll get all of the welding work done by next Saturday. Stay tuned for even more progress! Arrow
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Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......



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It's awesome to see so much progress on this project. I'm willing to bet you'll have body on frame action before the leaves fall. Keep up the pace and good work!
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sdstick wrote:
Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......

scratch I'm guessing that Mark must have done a frame off on his purple pearl then? I didn't know that. The only time I like to lift the frame up is the one time it fell off the stands and the time I pivoted it out of that little tree to get it in the sunlight. I won't be pressing it, call me a girly man if you want to Laughing


MASShole9C1 wrote:
It's awesome to see so much progress on this project. I'm willing to bet you'll have body on frame action before the leaves fall. Keep up the pace and good work!

Thanks! And That's the general plan lol. If not I'm a little bit boned... Shocked

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PS: He only picked up 1 end....does that help?

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sdstick wrote:
Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......


LOL I actually didn't press it completely.
Was afraid of throwing out my back.
Matt Don't fall prey to the peer pressure.
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Damn dude, a lot of progress, I could not work outside on a car in that heat/humidity, so I admire your motivation, lol.


Quote :
Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......

If I did that I'd probably get an umbilical hernia or something...."HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH WTF!" and so on and so forth... Laughing
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M.ROSS wrote:
sdstick wrote:
Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......


LOL I actually didn't press it completely.
Was afraid of throwing out my back.
Matt Don't fall prey to the peer pressure.

Laughing Don't worry I wont! I picked up one and while taking the rear out because I had to put it back on the front jack stands when it fell. But I used my legs, I didn't feel like crawling on the ground yet.

Matt Trakker wrote:
Damn dude, a lot of progress, I could not work outside on a car in that heat/humidity, so I admire your motivation, lol.


Quote :
Wasnt this the point where Mark Ross proved his masculinity & military pressed the frame? Cool

Just sayin......

If I did that I'd probably get an umbilical hernia or something...."HNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHH AHHHHHHH WTF!" and so on and so forth... Laughing

That's like the sounds I made trying to stand the rear end up on one wheel while it kept rolling back towards me. I eventually got it though Rolling Eyes

And honestly, working in this weather outside is better than in that damn tent. It's like a friggen green house! I can't deal with that. Hopefully timing will work out that I wont work inside the tent until it's cooler out...or I buy a new box fan
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You are certainly making some progress now! Good to see!

I went with my buddy to look at a 2 door for sale locally (82). Unfortunately it was too far gone (front door bottoms had rotted and seperated from the skin, rear lower control arm mounts on the frame, rear rails etc). Its a shame because I was really looking forward to joining the two door club haha. But my 4 door tank will have to do!

How far was your last trip to my place? Maybe one weekend I could try to come out and lend a hand.
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bfurches wrote:
You are certainly making some progress now! Good to see!

I went with my buddy to look at a 2 door for sale locally (82). Unfortunately it was too far gone (front door bottoms had rotted and seperated from the skin, rear lower control arm mounts on the frame, rear rails etc). Its a shame because I was really looking forward to joining the two door club haha. But my 4 door tank will have to do!

How far was your last trip to my place? Maybe one weekend I could try to come out and lend a hand.

It was a drive but nothing that can't be handled. There will (well there freakin better be) a mod day at my house to swap the body onto the completed frame but it may take some time. I just hope it can happen before winter, because if not I'm in deep water with safe storage spots.

Too bad it'd be cool to have another two door around! But your car is nice, so it'll be perfectly fine for some of the fun stuff you've got planned.
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Today I mimicked what Crovo did yesterday as Al told me to keep the progress coming, but I didn't end the day with the new engine installed Embarassed


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Hey Matt, saw the Mark Ross thread.
Dont you know a guy that could cut the right size hole in a rectangular pc of #11GA steel (0.1196") with plenty of area for mickey mouse welds?
Measure, sketch with dimensions....drive south

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sdstick wrote:
Hey Matt, saw the Mark Ross thread.
Dont you know a guy that could cut the right size hole in a rectangular pc of #11GA steel (0.1196") with plenty of area for mickey mouse welds?
Measure, sketch with dimensions....drive south

I'm not sure I've never met anyone in any club with a full on shop with lots of steel and other machines lying around...Or have I? Question
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So I got up early read through M.Ross' thread and got motivated. I spent the entire day outside with the exception of a couple of hours driving my sister to work and making a wally world trip for a nice Made in USA $16.00 box fan to cool off in the greenhouse car tent.

The day started off pretty lame. I practiced some of my welding skills, if you can call them that, and then loosened all of the clips in the frame that secure the fuel and brake lines. Then I realized that wasn't really much of anything at all...So I remedied that situation by doing the following.

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Pulled the drive shaft
Tried to stop the loss of blood red trans. fluid into the "drain pan"
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While I was down there I admired the pretty clean floors and thanked myself for buying this car even though it's turned into something completely different.
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Next up I said screw it and pulled down the Y-pipe. I got ready with the breaker bar and lead pipe then all of a sudden an 1/8 of a turn let the first nut free, then the other three took even LESS effort! I love it when things were assembled only a few years prior.
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After that I dropped the starter but the aforementioned sister came home and her boyfriend was asking me about the car and blah blah so I didnt get a pic.

Then I took all of the bellhousing bolts out, and I wish I could find my wobble extension as Crovo had mentioned they make it a LOT easier for this part of engine removal...which was apparently what I would end up doing today!

The biggest bear of this however was that I COULD NOT get the flywheel bolts out by myself! And the halfway rounded bolt on the crank pulley sure as $#*& didn't help! But I counted it as my "core workout" for the day and got it done! Thank god there are only three of them.
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Next up was the fun part! All alone, with no club to help me! I could never be President, doing things alone and all Laughing J/K Crovo!
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Though the fun part was painless!
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She came right on out! Though it is a LOT lighter without the tranny! I'm seriously running out of jack stands BTW
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^^^I have to paint that fire wall now and Maybe someone in the club is as good with 700R4's as they are with 4L60s and wants to go through it and do a few "shift improvements" for me? Or maybe someone can point me in the right DIY direction. Especially with picking out new parts like a T/C and shift kit.

Oh, and sorry, no big EFFF ups transporting this engine. It'll stay right here in the way of everything for a little while.
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And for all of you guys reading this in the morning before work, here's a cup of coffee on me!
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Eh, on second thought that might have turned into a drain pan too... geek


So that's how I got over my case of the mondays!

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1984twodoor wrote:

I'm not sure I've never met anyone in any club with a full on shop with lots of steel and other machines lying around...Or have I? Question

ahem Rolling Eyes
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bfurches wrote:
1984twodoor wrote:

I'm not sure I've never met anyone in any club with a full on shop with lots of steel and other machines lying around...Or have I? Question

ahem Rolling Eyes

Haha! Maybe we'll see each other soon eh? I'll have to make some drawings and sketches and templates or what have you and then get something made by one of the gracious club members who wont charge me too much!
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