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 RIer looking for a wagon

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MASShole9C1



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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:14 pm

chapel wrote:
who needs google. I memorized books Very Happy
and sometimes... I make things up
What a Face

You sound pretty useful
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1984twodoor



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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:27 pm

Matt Trakker wrote:
I invented the turtleneck.

I invented being cool Cool
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nailhead445



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PostSubject: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:34 pm

Oh, boy. I didn't think I was going to set off all this about the wagon. In basic terms, I was simply saying that if you have a '94 car they can't "Check the Emissions" because they can't plug the car into their equipment. So they rely on whether the "Malfunction Indicator Lamp" or whatever you want to call it, is on. If it is, then back you go to the end of the line with a rejection sticker. (Talking about Massachusetts, now). So, if it isn't, ala' the now infamous "MIL kill switch", then it's on to the safety stuff, and nobody would want to drive around with loose tie rods et al, so definitely fix that stuff. Now the truth is that nobody's getting emissions tested in terms of the old VMAS up the Wazoo pipe (In MA, anyway). They're doing it through the ALDL (Assembly Line Diagnostic Link), also called DCL (Diagnostic Connector Link)...."THE HOLES". But from around '95 and on up, all cars are getting emissions tested through the link. Here's a statement from MASDOT:.........
"What is the Massachusetts Vehicle Check?
Massachusetts introduced its "next generation" vehicle emissions testing and safety inspection program on, October 1, 2008. Vehicles 1996 and newer will be tested for emissions (On Board Diagnostic test) every year along with the annual safety inspection. Motorists will be able to choose which inspection station they use as long as the station is licensed. The cost of the test is among the lowest in the nation for this type of program. The Mass Vehicle Check will continue to cost $29 annually.
But it's also true, that even '95 or '96 cars and later, that subscribe to the IM240 Protocol, via OBDII are scrutinized beyond the MIL. The machine reads their readiness monitors, which you can monitor yourself before inspection with a relatively inexpensive scanner. So, in conclusion make it easy on yourself and get a '94.
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:40 pm

I agree. I had a nice '94 L99 that needed a swap. It was solid too. That member I sold it to, well...disappeared Shocked . My 1995 caprice did not get hooked up as its OBDI and got a sticker last friday. And I was told by the inspection tech that when i bring my 96 9C1 in, it wont need to pass a plug in emissions check and also that the years are going to go up year after year.
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:43 pm

Yeap, they JUST changed it earlier this year, even though 1996 is OBD2, it's now emissions exempt. However I don't know the rules that apply to it if the light is on. Are they going to mess with people now if you have an OBD1 car and the CEL/SES/MIL is illuminated? lol
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:53 pm

Matt Trakker wrote:
Yeap, they JUST changed it earlier this year, even though 1996 is OBD2, it's now emissions exempt. However I don't know the rules that apply to it if the light is on. Are they going to mess with people now if you have an OBD1 car and the CEL/SES/MIL is illuminated? lol

cheers Looks like the cougar isn't getting that new EVAP canister!
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chapel



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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:54 pm

MASShole9C1 wrote:
chapel wrote:
who needs google. I memorized books Very Happy
and sometimes... I make things up
What a Face

You sound pretty useful

my usefulness knows no bounds.

or is that my uselessness... I'll have to ask my wife.
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nailhead445



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PostSubject: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Sep 29, 2011 10:58 pm

Well, that's good news, cuz I've also got a '96 (My driver), and the "Light" is always on. MA emission tester always spits out a message about a campaign for the exact code, but no Buick dealer has any idea what they're talking about. And nothing turns up in the comprehensive vehicle history report. So, for years I've been killing the light, and then driving around until the monitors set and then having it inspected. Maybe now, I'll just have to kill the light.
For what it's worth, I was on the Advisory Board to the commission that set all of this BS up, in the first place. I argued in vain to let the cars slide into 15 year grandfatherification. No one would ever listen. All they could think about was more money for repairs and rejecting more cars so that they could sell more. Glad to hear that its finally come about.
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:31 am

1996 does NOT need testing, I just did the caddy a few months back. and the MIL was on. (covered with a pic of my daughter) no questions asked.


Oh and I invented: Atkins friendly body of Christ...... For Catholics trying to watch their weight. Just sayin...
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MASShole9C1



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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Fri Sep 30, 2011 1:33 am

lol thats 4L60EVIL Twisted Evil LMAO
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mp775



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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:03 pm

nailhead445 wrote:
...I would recommend a solid '94 car, if you can find one. That will give you the advantage of LT1 option, plus the last year for OBDI electronics. Don't know what the RI inspection system is like, but here in MA, they gave up on VMAS testing...

I got a semi-solid '94. Rhode Island requires the vehicle meets emissions standards for its model year unless it's >25 years old and is registered as an antique. If the MIL doesn't light briefly when you first turn the key on, it's an automatic fail.
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:05 pm

bowtiepimp wrote:
chapel wrote:
mp775 wrote:
bowtiepimp wrote:
ask and you shall receive.......

That's the one I'm looking at. It shakes violently on the highway, but the rust isn't as bad as every other one I've seen.

jeez, really?
shakes VIOLENTLY?
I was gonna go look at that one too


.... mostly likely shitty tires ..... e- z fix...... odds of finding one that wont need some kind of work right away or in near future is slim to none...... gotta take what u can get afro

Turned out to be a rear brake drum out of balance. It floats through the Pawtucket S-curve at 65 like nothing now Very Happy.
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nailhead445



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PostSubject: RIer   Mon Oct 03, 2011 12:15 pm

An interesting twist to the plot. It wouldn't be too hard to come up with a circuit to insert into that wire that I mentioned before. With just a little more work, it could be tailor made to flash almost exactly as long as the "Factory Setting". As long as they don't actually connect it to the ALDL, cuz then the jig would be up. And if they decided to look into why it exhibited those symptoms....could be big trouble. Me, myself, I'd do it anyway. Trouble's my middle name.
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PostSubject: Re: RIer looking for a wagon   Thu Oct 06, 2011 7:51 am

I finally got my wife to drive it last night. She's been reluctant, even though one of the main reasons I went looking for one is because she won't drive the Caravan. She came home and said, "I have one question about the car." I'm thinking "uh-oh, it's going to be 'how much did you spend on that pile of junk again?'. Nope. It was "Can I have it?" Very Happy
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