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PostSubject: recommended wires & plugs?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 3:56 pm

Before I spend any $$$$ ..... Looking to get feed back on some good plug wires for the caddy. Not looking for the most expensive set but the best bang for the buck. Screw reading up on the product , I want to know what everyone else is running and what they feel is a good deal. Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 4:09 pm

Delco's in the car now when I bought it, and just bought a new set to replace them. It ran me like $10 for the plugs, and $25 for the wireset from Rockauto.
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 6:27 pm

I like Napa Beldens when buying from a store...the blue wires . If you buy online, go with the United Ignition Wire product. They are made in Ohio using Delphi Packard igntion wire, while the Delcos are actually made in China (The TBI truck wires are anyway). I don't know what they do now (I think Delco) but until around the mid 90s (I think) GM supplied Packard ignition wires on new vehicles, Packard is the house brand for GM. They, in my opinion, are the best for the price. Rock Auto sells them.
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Tue Aug 23, 2011 9:52 pm

Factory GM Delco is what was recommended to me. Runs great. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:10 am

Summit blue f-body ones. They fit perfect! Wink

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:41 am

i like my msd wires and acdelco rapid fire plugs
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:55 am

I go with the delco wires all the way. If they can last 15 years and still don't have a missfire, that is proof enough that they make a damn good wire.
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:23 pm

95brmw wrote:
I go with the delco wires all the way. If they can last 15 years and still don't have a missfire, that is proof enough that they make made a damn good wire.
fixt
I use MSD but I heard Taylor makes a good wire.
I doubt you have to spend that much, but I pay more so I dont have to change them again....eva....
ok...that doesnt work

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 4:34 pm

delco is out of the question as is most Gm parts are now Surprised


..... MSD sounds like the choice, I want something I wont need to worry about til a new motor goes in Laughing




.... and what schmuck use's blue F- body wires on a D body anyways? Razz
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:07 pm

bowtiepimp wrote:

.... and what schmuck use's blue F- body wires on a D body anyways? Razz

This one does! Hey, they were cheap! Wink if you'd kept 'em off the headers, they woulda lasted just fine! Razz

For your car, go with the 30 dollah duralasts. They'll work just fine.

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 6:10 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
bowtiepimp wrote:

.... and what schmuck use's blue F- body wires on a D body anyways? Razz

This one does! Hey, they were cheap! Wink if you'd kept 'em off the headers, they woulda lasted just fine! Razz

For your car, go with the 30 dollah duralasts. They'll work just fine.


Do I get them at the same place you got the water pump : silent
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 7:24 pm

IIRC Taylor wires weren't too expensive. I have 'em on one car somewhere.
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 8:11 pm

I've used Taylors before too. And while they are a good wire, the boots are HUGE and may hit the headers in a spot or two.

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:07 pm

sdstick wrote:
95brmw wrote:
I go with the delco wires all the way. If they can last 15 years and still don't have a missfire, that is proof enough that they make made a damn good wire.
fixt
I use MSD but I heard Taylor makes a good wire.
I doubt you have to spend that much, but I pay more so I dont have to change them again....eva....
ok...that doesnt work

Ha ha, thanks for catching that. The last set of wires I bought were from Advance. They were delcos and looked like they had been sitting on their shelf since 1995, no complaints here!
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:19 pm

I had MSDs before, I liked how they looked and the construction, but they were pricey, boots fell off the wires, and the boots also wouldn't stay on the spark plugs. When I looked on the MSD company forum it said to just add more dielectric grease. WTF?

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:19 pm

95brmw wrote:
sdstick wrote:
95brmw wrote:
I go with the delco wires all the way. If they can last 15 years and still don't have a missfire, that is proof enough that they make made a damn good wire.
fixt
I use MSD but I heard Taylor makes a good wire.
I doubt you have to spend that much, but I pay more so I dont have to change them again....eva....
ok...that doesnt work

Ha ha, thanks for catching that. The last set of wires I bought were from Advance. They were delcos and looked like they had been sitting on their shelf since 1995, no complaints here!

The old Delcos really were very good. I would buy NOS if I found them. For the money I still say NAPA Belden Premium 8mm wires (the thick blue ones) are the best set of wires you can get, and those United Ignition ones are good too, if buying on the intardnet.

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:31 pm

A Ford???

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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Wed Aug 24, 2011 9:51 pm

I posted that on purpose LOLOL
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Thu Aug 25, 2011 2:24 am

sdstick wrote:
95brmw wrote:
I go with the delco wires all the way. If they can last 15 years and still don't have a missfire, that is proof enough that they make made a damn good wire.
fixt
I use MSD but I heard Taylor makes a good wire.
I doubt you have to spend that much, but I pay more so I dont have to change them again....eva....
ok...that doesnt work
I am not sure the OEM or Delco wires installed 15 yrs ago are still USA made or as good & reliable.
But, whenever I've figured out a good solution to a tough problem that can be implemented with superior USA sourced parts and materials, I stay with that.

This approach is not for everybody, but I happen to agree with the idea that longevity & reliability far outweigh saving $75. (MSD 32159 $128.xx!)
http://www.summitracing.com/parts/MSD-32159/
So, for anyone who believes that the extra care taken building the best wire set possible will help keep you from sitting waiting for a tow truck on the side of the road one miserable night, while contemplating why it seemed sensible two years ago to save a few dollars in ignition parts, well anyway, this is how I did my 88 Boxy,,,

MSD 8.5 black, with pro-heat-guard, shrink "#"sleeves, MSD loom kit (modified), orange MSD tape sealed under the black HD heat shrink sleeves.

Obviously I expected not to have any problems with this set, because I chose to run them trapped behind my motor-mount clam-shells.
I made up this set after the last dyno pull & engine painting. I had the distributor adjusted just right so I could get the wires to be routed neatly & evenly.

Yes, Taylors I've had DO burn easily, being so fat and soft.

This same approach can be used to make your LT1 wire set, building them yourself insures a perfect fit!













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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:11 am

Matt Trakker wrote:
I had MSDs before, I liked how they looked and the construction, but they were pricey, boots fell off the wires, and the boots also wouldn't stay on the spark plugs. When I looked on the MSD company forum it said to just add more dielectric grease. WTF?

That dielectric grease is your friend! This is the one I use, , ,
http://productsearch.nyelubricants.com/pdf%5CTDS_English_NYOGEL%20760D.pdf
It will last a very long time, even with all that heat.
The MSD boots will release from the plug as they should.
Without it, water (your enemy) can also "capillary" into the insertion of the wire to the boot (not just the spark plug) and cause another path to ground.
If the wire set is made-up properly (preferably by you), they will be extremely resistant to having the wire "pull-out".
A good tool to have is one of these spark plug boot pullers, you chose.
http://buy1.snapon.com/catalog/tools.asp?tool=all&Group_ID=1351&store=snapon-store
Or something REALLY cheap,
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Alltrade-648423-Spark-Plug-Boot-Puller-/370519219213?pt=Motors_Car_Truck_Parts_Accessories&hash=item5644aa9c0d#ht_2860wt_941
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PostSubject: Re: recommended wires & plugs?   Thu Aug 25, 2011 3:13 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
A Ford???

LOL Laughing

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can i have that for my car??? oh wait never mind Sad



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