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+18Pooge No Moa silverfox103 96Brougham IMPALADAKID boojum toomanytoyz V8Killer 95brmw GasTT laidlow91 MASShole9C1 mp775 1984twodoor Ironfistdog Matt Trakker sdstick Cadet57 22 posters |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:31 pm | |
| That really does look great, Justin. Even at that altitude! I really dig the ralleys and RWL's! Hurry up and get that 1/4 trim back on there! I | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:38 pm | |
| HA!!!@ Als pic Looks great Justin, your all set for spring | |
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boojum
Posts : 2182 Join date : 2009-01-21 Age : 36 Location : NH
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:57 pm | |
| - V8Killer wrote:
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Those are some extreme winter springs! | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 3:59 pm | |
| S'awful nice kehd! I dunno, I think it looks fine at that ride height. RWL= 70s era muscle car look = not lowered...lol. With 18" Torq Thrusts and low profile tires, I'd DEF lower it all around. Would have to see more pics. It would look good lowered slightly up front but not by too much...that's a tall sidewall! Methinks I need to contact Tim about some "tiyahs" Wasn't that lifted wagon using the original frame and everything but with altered suspension and 14 bolt in back? (Some full size GM cars actually came from the factory with a coil spring 14 bolt rear...btw ) | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 4:18 pm | |
| I think the wagon "plow truck" that Fred had, and I'm pretty sure that pic is it, was on a 2500 GM pickup/burban frame. | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
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| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:40 pm | |
| - V8Killer wrote:
- Looks much better I'm not going to say anything about the height................
[/quote] Loose chrome side trim Justin. You have a winner there for sure. Looks awesome. I would so rock Fred's old 4XWAGON. |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 6:45 pm | |
| Looking real nice. Great touch Justin! You know how I feel about your ride height...assuming your on my level...lol. | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Mar 31, 2012 9:58 pm | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sun Apr 01, 2012 1:52 am | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sun Apr 01, 2012 9:22 am | |
| Thanks guys! I'm really digging the combo. Even got a couple thumbs up on the way home Also, how do I cut front 9C1 springs - 1984twodoor wrote:
*sniffle* I think my nose is bleeding and my ears just popped looking at it. I almost never say lower a car, but for the love of the B-Body gods LOWER THAT THING! It was a bit floaty on 93, and I also may have driven over a Smart. Not sure. - V8Killer wrote:
- Looks much better I'm not going to say anything about the height................
It's like we're twins! - toomanytoyz wrote:
- That really does look great, Justin. Even at that altitude! I really dig the ralleys and RWL's!
Hurry up and get that 1/4 trim back on there! I Thanks Crocodile! But all the belt line trim is coming off. It's peeled, ratty, scrached and more nasty than Lindsay Lohan's unmentionables... - Matt Trakker wrote:
- S'awful nice kehd!
I dunno, I think it looks fine at that ride height. RWL= 70s era muscle car look = not lowered...lol. With 18" Torq Thrusts and low profile tires, I'd DEF lower it all around. Would have to see more pics.
It would look good lowered slightly up front but not by too much...that's a tall sidewall!
Methinks I need to contact Tim about some "tiyahs" Get em quick. I think Tim said my 235's may have been the last set before they went out of stock. - toomanytoyz wrote:
- I think the wagon "plow truck" that Fred had, and I'm pretty sure that pic is it, was on a 2500 GM pickup/burban frame.
Yeup. It was on a 2500 'burban. He said it was a bear to drive too lol - MASShole9C1 wrote:
- Looking real nice. Great touch Justin! You know how I feel about your ride height...assuming your on my level...lol.
Not quite, just a little. | |
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boojum
Posts : 2182 Join date : 2009-01-21 Age : 36 Location : NH
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sun Apr 01, 2012 11:16 am | |
| You cut the bottom of the front springs. The tangental end, not the square end. If you cut the spring 1" shorter you'll get near a 2" drop. In this photo the springs are upside down. The bottom of the spring is at the top of the photo. | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Apr 17, 2012 2:35 pm | |
| Small update. Ordered my exhaust components yesterday. Just going to run a stock single for now. That way I can put some more money towards paint and body New quarters should be getting installed this weekend. Tried fixing one with Bondo hair. It was an exercise in failure. But the driveway has plenty of fiberglass on it now And now the best part of this bump: I may be getting a new motor after all. Friend of my father has a 350 he built and never installed sitting in his garage I can have includes some type of aluminum head and a mild cam iirc. Was built as a daily driver/ weekend strip motor. | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 10:03 am | |
| Another bumpy. All the exhaust parts are here except the muffler. Still debating what to go with. But im considering some sort of turbo muffler. Either a Dynomax, Thrush or Cherry Bomb. Also. The white rims may not stay that way for long. The wheel clear I used sucks out loud and is already peeling. Plus the wheels are a magnet for brake dust. Look like shit in a day after cleaning. So I was bored and tried this on for size: I kinda like it. | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:20 am | |
| Way back, I used those for winters....cut the crap & figure those wheels out!!!
Get some better pads or install dust shields...wateva
Car looks to good for those caps (ya I know they look ok....GM thought so too....but that was STOCK) | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 11:31 am | |
| - sdstick wrote:
- Way back, I used those for winters....cut the crap & figure those wheels out!!!
Get some better pads or install dust shields...wateva
Car looks to good for those caps (ya I know they look ok....GM thought so too....but that was STOCK) I am. This'd be temporary. I hope Just dont have the time to take them off, strip them and do all that bs... again. | |
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95brmw
Posts : 1434 Join date : 2009-11-10 Age : 39 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:00 pm | |
| I like those hub caps, they look great polished up. My biggest complaint about them was they constantly made noise that drove me nuts. You could only hear it with the windows down though. | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 1:05 pm | |
| - 95brmw wrote:
- ................ My biggest complaint about them was they constantly made noise that drove me nuts.............
Ya...noise as they jump off the wheel & roll by you | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Apr 30, 2012 3:21 pm | |
| Just go stock argent silver with rings and shiny caps man! | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 03, 2012 4:42 pm | |
| Found some dust shields, going to order those and hopefully they help. Also arrangements have been made for...................... REPAINTING Going to go in either end of June/ early July for a fresh dip of GM white with a fresh clear coat to boot. I am so pumped right now. | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 03, 2012 5:14 pm | |
| - Cadet57 wrote:
- I am so pumped right now.
This is NOTHING...wait until it come OUT of the booth...... Absolute BEST feeling in the world. New paint & good weather...lokking forward to seeing it | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 03, 2012 5:22 pm | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 03, 2012 7:53 pm | |
| Be patient....Chris will tell you how long to wait | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Fri May 04, 2012 7:41 pm | |
| - sdstick wrote:
- Be patient....Chris will tell you how long to wait
But I need instant gratification! | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 10, 2012 1:12 pm | |
| - Cadet57 wrote:
- ......... but the guy at the inspection place hinted that it's going to be time for a new muffler soon.........]
The guy might be happy that you got a muffler for your vehicle....but....that MAY NOT have been what he meant PS: whats with the clamp & the 4" extension?
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V8Killer
Posts : 1691 Join date : 2009-03-12 Age : 52 Location : Southern, NH
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 10, 2012 1:15 pm | |
| If you're going to do the exhaust, should do a 9C1 y-pipe & cat (or test pipe). Regular TBI is 2 1/4" at the merge to the Cat, the 9C1 is 3" I just did it to the OCC | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Thu May 10, 2012 2:11 pm | |
| - sdstick wrote:
The guy might be happy that you got a muffler for your vehicle....but....that MAY NOT have been what he meant Then he should have specified! Also, my nosy, bitchey neighbor will love me. This will be payback for the time she called the cops on me at 5pm on a Saturday when I was using an air ratchet. - sdstick wrote:
- PS: whats with the clamp & the 4" extension?
Stock muffler is 23". The Dynomax is only 18.5, hence the 4" extension. - V8Killer wrote:
- If you're going to do the exhaust, should do a 9C1 y-pipe & cat (or test pipe).
Regular TBI is 2 1/4" at the merge to the Cat, the 9C1 is 3" Huh, weird. My car has the 3" Y. Exhaust is original too. Is your OCC a 5.0 or 5.7? | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Jun 18, 2012 4:27 pm | |
| Exhaust is in. Sounds great. But a little more quiet than I was hoping. Ah well. Quarters still haven't been done, so paint is being pushed back. No big deal atm. Have a slightly bigger issue atm: Noticed a wet carpet a couple weeks ago. Couldn't trace down the leak so I cleaned it out as best as I could. Then last week I noticed a gross smell eminating from the rear of the car. Mold had started growing under the passenger seat Ripped out all the seats and carpet to find the rear floor SOAKED. sucked it all out with the shop vac. Then powerwashed the carpets with simple green. Smell and look fine now. Also had to pull out all the old padding as it was soaked and musty Anyways, spent yesterday and today grinding out all the rust and thankfully no holes and everything is still solid. Also tracked down the leak to the corner of the body. Plugged with a tube of roofing tar and tiger hair. Now that that's done, tomorrow I'm going to start painting the floors with this: Let's see water cause problems again. | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:24 pm | |
| Wow, that sucks, what was the hole, rot or was it just like a seam that blew open? I know all too well the issues with water leaks, I think every car and truck I've owned aside from the white Caprice has had one, including the black Tahoe! So glad I caught that one before it did anything. It was a pinhole in the seam sealer!
Where'd you get the SEM from? And I always hear of Tiger Hair, what is it, like bondo with fiberglass in it? | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Mon Jun 18, 2012 5:29 pm | |
| - Matt Trakker wrote:
- Wow, that sucks, what was the hole, rot or was it just like a seam that blew open? I know all too well the issues with water leaks, I think every car and truck I've owned aside from the white Caprice has had one, including the black Tahoe! So glad I caught that one before it did anything. It was a pinhole in the seam sealer!
Where'd you get the SEM from? And I always hear of Tiger Hair, what is it, like bondo with fiberglass in it? It looks like a hole in the seam sealer that just got bigger over time and then formed a rust bubble. Tiger Hair is a bondo and long strand fiberglass mix. It works the same as regular bondo. VERY strong patch material. I got my Rust Shield from Auto Craft Sales in Springfield. They carry the full SEM line and even has the RS in stock. Plus they can mix the interior cans on site. | |
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1984twodoor
Posts : 4068 Join date : 2010-03-30 Age : 30 Location : Wilmington/Wakefield/Andover
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:08 am | |
| Matt there is a place in Wilmington RIGHT before the Woburn line on 38 that sells SEM products. It's directly across from the body shop that did the roof of the caprice. Check it out they might have it! | |
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95brmw
Posts : 1434 Join date : 2009-11-10 Age : 39 Location : Connecticut
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Jun 19, 2012 7:47 am | |
| Good thing you caught the puddle now. A leak like this is what caused the rust master to loose its rear floor pans. | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:41 pm | |
| ^I always thought that car rotted from the bottom up, into the car? LOL
A leak, or leaks, did in my green Impala. Water leaked in the back window on pretty much EVERY old 60s and 70s car I've seen. My 74 that I have now leaks, but I keep it out of the elements. I still need to get it rectified though so I can stop worrying about getting caught in the rain. Someone told me it was because they used butyl tape or something instead of a urethane seal?
Water leaked onto the floor of my old green one as well from the windshield. That rotted the front floor pans, then water came in through that rot and rotted the rears, the water leaking in the back window actually even ran along inside the tops of the quarter panels and rotted those, all kinds of weird places. Leaks suck! | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Jun 19, 2012 12:53 pm | |
| Justin, did you check that area I talked to you about? | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Jun 19, 2012 3:47 pm | |
| - MASShole9C1 wrote:
- Justin, did you check that area I talked to you about?
I did. Its there and leak free Laid down the first coat of Rust Shield. That stuff rocks. Goes on very easy and hardens up very fast. I did one coat so far Very pleased. | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Aug 07, 2012 3:48 pm | |
| I can't let Ironfistdog have all the fun in here now, so a small bump. Drivers quarter is getting welded in Sunday. I'm going to try and repair the passenger side to save the welding. If not, that one will get done either Sunday, or another day. Just about finished filling/grinding out the trim studs where the stainless is. Once those are filled I'll pull the stainless for good. Installed some HID's. Man they're bright. Not obnoxiously so, but still better than stock. Also going to install the cornering lamps and Fleetwood horns. After that, just have the paint and he'll be done. | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Tue Aug 07, 2012 9:34 pm | |
| While it may not be noticeable with the HID's installed as much as without, I was surprised at how much of a difference they made!
I need to do the horns now I think. One of the originals may have gone down the tubes, only one of the two horns is sounding (worked, stopped working, worked again in and out the other day and now it doesn't) and it isn't very authoritative...I might have just knocked a wire loose when i did the cornering lamps however... | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:00 pm | |
| This weekend is bodywork weekend! The guy who was supposed to paint my car flaked out (not surprised really...) So now I have to find a new painter, my father gave me a couple names to try. One is a shop he worked at for like 15 years and a friend of his is the manager now. Anyways... Monday is *the* day, quarter(s) are being welded FINALLY. Everything is set to go. Weather looks good. Today I pulled the stainless off and took about a half hour with the orbital sander and finished the rest of the studs. They are SMOOTH. The stainless is gone for good! | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:09 pm | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:11 pm | |
| - MASShole9C1 wrote:
- Good. Now lower it.
Just the nose, 9C1 springs cut 1/2 coil | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 4:19 pm | |
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Ironfistdog
Posts : 2141 Join date : 2011-01-11 Age : 42 Location : Warren, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:42 pm | |
| What did you do to initially remove the studs? Mine are all intact still and im hesitant on beginning to remove them. Body and paint look like shyte and I wanna get started on priming before winter (would love to paint caddy and wagon together) any tips? | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:50 pm | |
| - Ironfistdog wrote:
- What did you do to initially remove the studs? Mine are all intact still and im hesitant on beginning to remove them. Body and paint look like shyte and I wanna get started on priming before winter (would love to paint caddy and wagon together) any tips?
Dremel tool with a couple packages of cutoff wheels. Cut them off as close to flush with the body as you can, then just clean up with the orbital. I would say I only have to hit maybe 20% of them with a bit of bondo. The rest cleaned up perfect. Heck, when you want to start them, lmk and I can give ya a hand. | |
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Ironfistdog
Posts : 2141 Join date : 2011-01-11 Age : 42 Location : Warren, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 5:56 pm | |
| Sounds good. I got some 36 grit flap discs and some 80, 220, 320 grit paper for the DA. Was gonna try and just zip them down with the 36 and then polish out progressively.
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:05 pm | |
| I heard the way to get the studs off was to use vise grips and give a quick twist. Supposed to break em off damn near flush every time. Then sand em... Oh, yeah... And lower it. | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 9:08 pm | |
| - toomanytoyz wrote:
- I heard the way to get the studs off was to use vise grips and give a quick twist. Supposed to break em off damn near flush every time. Then sand em...
I tried the vice grip thing. Either I was too stupid (a distinct possibility!) to do it right. Or they're a lot tougher than people say! | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 10:36 pm | |
| - Cadet57 wrote:
I tried the vice grip thing. Either I was too stupid (a distinct possibility!) to do it right. Or they're a lot tougher than people say! No....your not stupid.....maybe your just to girlie? ... | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sat Sep 01, 2012 11:21 pm | |
| ^^ lmao. It's gotta be the pink baby tee | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My Wagon Project Thread (Again...) Sun Sep 02, 2012 9:03 am | |
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