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PostSubject: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Fri Mar 11, 2011 11:44 pm

lets just say "someone" had a 96 car and lived in MA and lets say said person also had a 91 -95 parts car layin around... could the "person" swap over a dash (more importantly a VIN) to the 96 car, thereby making the "96 car" into lets say for argument a 91?

I obviously know a vin swap is illegal without having it inspected by a state trooper at an inspection station yadda yadda yadda, but if the obd2 plug was relocated up under the dash where you couldnt see it and then "they" took an obd1 plug and stuck it where the factory one was (not attached wire wise) is it possible to fool an inspection place into thinking a 96 car with headers, no cats, no air pump all the crap messing up the engine bay missing was a 91 (or 92-95) car and NOT have to pass a plug in?? i mean even to look at the faux plug they'd see its not an obd2.

seems like 2 rivets is alot easier to change than an entire motor/pcm/wiring
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:12 am

Said person can do whatever they want, the less that know about it, the better.

91-93 had rear fender skirts also. I'd go late 93-95 if I was going to do it. But I wouldn't do it. To much work.
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:50 am

While Glen is correct, that would be flat out illegal. If you wanted to do something in the grey area of legal, just swap bodys on the frames. This would put the 91 body on the 96 frame and drive train.
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:52 am

No Moa wrote:
Said person can do whatever they want, the less that know about it, the better.

91-93 had rear fender skirts also. I'd go late 93-95 if I was going to do it. But I wouldn't do it. To much work.

Glen, 93's have rear open fenders (Fishah's 93 LTZ), the world is safe now that the secret is out Razz .
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 7:54 am

IMPALADAKID wrote:
While Glen is correct, that would be flat out illegal.

I always am, Laughing and you are correct. But who'd check now adays on an old b-body. Other than a bunch of us, most people ain't smart enought to tell.


IMPALADAKID wrote:
If you wanted to do something in the grey area of legal, just swap bodys on the frames. This would put the 91 body on the 96 frame and drive train.

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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:21 am

but doesnt the inspection go off of your registration. thats how the cops know if you got a goot inpection while there behind you
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:36 am

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No Moa wrote:
Said person can do whatever they want, the less that know about it, the better.

91-93 had rear fender skirts also. I'd go late 93-95 if I was going to do it. But I wouldn't do it. To much work.

Glen, 93's have rear open fenders (Fishah's 93 LTZ), the world is safe now that the secret is out Razz .

Well aware if that Tom, as you can see on my post, I said "late 93-95" I have seen a 93 with skirts. And a without. Not sure when it changed, not sure I really care. :-)
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 8:50 am

I didn't know the 93 came with/without a skirt, learn something new every day. And I do care, a little bit.
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:07 am

mega wrote:
but doesnt the inspection go off of your registration. thats how the cops know if you got a goot inpection while there behind you

the point would be to register the 96 as a obd1 car 91-95 (if someone was a pro at picking them out obviously id pick a 95)

not saying i want to do this just dread the Inspection stations every year. i'd like to keep it a 96, but i want the engine bay clear of any clutter. dont really care about preformance gains/losses with this car... i just want his one to look clean in the engine bay.
what can be realistically taken out without affecting an obd2 plug in for emissions.
im gonna be running 02 simulators on the lower (is it downdraft??) 02 sensors, so in theory i could hollow out the cats and still pass, but im just not sure on the air pump or anything top end or computer wise.
if the bottom o2's read clean does that mean the computer is not affected? or is there other sensors that would go off and throw codes? really wanna put headers (the afterburners kind) in and not have to pipe in all thos rubber hoses.
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PostSubject: Re: hypothetical question about 91/95 and a 96    Sat Mar 12, 2011 9:30 am

Tomz9C1 wrote:
I do care, a little bit.

Why? I figured you as a late tri 9 guy. Not a old tri 9 guy.
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