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PostSubject: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:15 pm

DONE


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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:26 pm

Shrader valve is on back side of intake. Try taking a rubber mallet to the fuel tank and see if it starts. That will tell you if it is a fuel pump. Could be a bad ground too. You should be able to hear the pump prime with when you turn the key to the on position. I have never had one, you can't hear.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:29 pm

play with the fuse & relay if that don't work hot wire the fuel pump prime connector
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:30 pm

I beat the sheet out of it.

Even when it would run, I didn't here the pump prime. Ill try the impala also, c if I can hear it.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:35 pm

Not sure why but the pump in my caprice gave up priming. Sometimes it does.
But if it sits I have to go under the hood and self prime the pump and it starts right up.
Otherwise it just cranks and cranks. Give that a shot. Check your grounds at the coil.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:35 pm

Jump this wire on the pass side bu the fues block under the hood.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 4:49 pm

My '95 wouldnt start when it was wet. Ignition coil. Had to spray it down with WD40 and it started right up(both times it did it) It was replaced
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 7:49 pm

I tried the jump the primer trick, I did the imp first, got a noise up on the intake? Guessing that's the primer?

I got nothing on the 9c1.

My f.p. Gauge doesn't work. Pos.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:22 pm

did u check ur coil? did it 2 me. just died and cranked over and over. replaced the coil and fired right up. did it 2 me again a few mounths later and it was my fuel pump that time
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:36 pm

No Moa wrote:
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But i've never seen a fuel pump not work, work, not work, work. WTF...

I had a TBI pump fail but was working after I dropped the tank. F'n TBI. Smile

I had a LT1 pump not work and I reversed polarized it and a couple years later it's still working. Smile

Guess it's been more than two years:
http://www.inegma.net/mb/index.php?showtopic=5635&hl=polarity&st=0
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Mon Nov 08, 2010 8:48 pm

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I had a LT1 pump not work and I reversed polarized it and a couple years later it's still working. Smile

Guess it's been more than two years:
http://www.inegma.net/mb/index.php?showtopic=5635&hl=polarity&st=0
I remember reading that Jim. Very Happy
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 10:48 am

well, looks like i'm going to change the pump, while i'm in there, i'm cutting the trunk out so i dont have to lay in the dirt changing the POS.

Does this use a primer solinoid? My 94, i have to squirt gas in the TB to get it to start now, then its fine.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:45 am

If that big ass truck wasn't taking up your sweet lift you wouldn't need to lay in the dirt silly.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 11:48 am

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If that big ass truck wasn't taking up your sweet lift you wouldn't need to lay in the dirt silly.

Actually its not, i took 1/2 the shit out of the garage yesturday to clean it up. I rolled the truck out, it in turn rolled over me, so now its in the middle of the lawn, my f'in leg hurts, and its on craigslist to sell the big POS.

http://maine.craigslist.org/pts/2056111256.html

LOL, not one reply on the truck. LOL i'm asking just a wee bit to much. lol
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 2:56 pm

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GasTT wrote:
If that big ass truck wasn't taking up your sweet lift you wouldn't need to lay in the dirt silly.

Actually its not, i took 1/2 the shit out of the garage yesturday to clean it up. I rolled the truck out, it in turn rolled over me, so now its in the middle of the lawn, my f'in leg hurts, and its on craigslist to sell the big POS.

WOW! Safety 1ST please! Glad your ok. Iv'e had my fuel pump fail then start and run for awhile, then fail several more times.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:03 pm

Thanks Tom, just wasnt paging attention as usual
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:20 pm

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........I rolled the truck out, it in turn rolled over me..............
........my f'in leg hurts, and its on craigslist ..........................

LOL, not one reply on the truck. LOL i'm asking just a wee bit to much. lol

Are you asking an arm and a leg^^^^^ or just a leg?
Ya I know, my sense of humor is.....lacking Suspect

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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 3:22 pm

actually, the bed and the running gear are worth more than i'm asking. I'm sure it won't sell, nothing i try to ever does.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:36 pm

No Moa wrote:
GasTT wrote:
If that big ass truck wasn't taking up your sweet lift you wouldn't need to lay in the dirt silly.

Actually its not, i took 1/2 the shit out of the garage yesturday to clean it up. I rolled the truck out, it in turn rolled over me, so now its in the middle of the lawn, my f'in leg hurts, and its on craigslist to sell the big POS.

http://maine.craigslist.org/pts/2056111256.html

LOL, not one reply on the truck. LOL i'm asking just a wee bit to much. lol

It a long shot but send me the photos of the truck. I might be interested.

Do you have the radiator core support? Auto or standard?



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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Nov 12, 2010 4:41 pm

boojum wrote:
No Moa wrote:
GasTT wrote:
If that big ass truck wasn't taking up your sweet lift you wouldn't need to lay in the dirt silly.

Actually its not, i took 1/2 the shit out of the garage yesturday to clean it up. I rolled the truck out, it in turn rolled over me, so now its in the middle of the lawn, my f'in leg hurts, and its on craigslist to sell the big POS.

http://maine.craigslist.org/pts/2056111256.html

LOL, not one reply on the truck. LOL i'm asking just a wee bit to much. lol

It a long shot but send me the photos of the truck. I might be interested.

Do you have the radiator core support?


I don't have a good one unfortunately.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Sun Nov 21, 2010 5:13 pm

No Moa wrote:
well, looks like i'm going to change the pump, while i'm in there, i'm cutting the trunk out so i dont have to lay in the dirt changing the POS.

Does this use a primer solinoid? My 94, i have to squirt gas in the TB to get it to start now, then its fine.
For your fuel pump woes, here is the best solution I have seen so far. It improves or eliminates all issues with the stock set-up. http://www.racetronix.biz/customkititems.asp?kc=RFPK%2D004&eq= Read what they say on the site to understand what and why the kit includes what it does. Everyone I know who has upgraded to this stuff gives two big thumbs up!
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Wed Dec 01, 2010 2:33 pm

Well sat night at 6 I got pissed and push this car up to the garage, jacked it up and hauled the tank out, pulled the pump assembly, and found the pump wires and connecter fused together. I had to go out and rip apart another car in the dark for the wiring for the pumps as they were melted so bad I couldn't get them apart.

The car I took the other unit out of was a running car, but the fuel line ends were junk, so I dismantled both units, and used all the good from the two, layed on the cold ground for 3 hours, got it back together, f'n thing fired right up.

Now it's got a skip. I'm goig to have to work on the opti and plugs next.
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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:06 am

melty what?







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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:21 am

It still amazes me that wires can melt like that in a tank of gas & not end violently

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PostSubject: Re: 96 no start   Fri Dec 03, 2010 8:29 am

sdstick wrote:
It still amazes me that wires can melt like that in a tank of gas & not end violently

Ever seen a lit cigarette tossed into a bucket of 87 octane? I have a couple times, chief used to do it for training at the FD. lol Could have killed us all.
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