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GasTT



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PostSubject: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:50 pm

OK so JR did paint the Camaro with some black spray paint but it seems he missed a few spots! Maybe me washing it is taking the paint off??





I've never spray painted a car before so I'm kinda lookin for a little advise on what to do with this thing... I was thinking some rustoleum gloss black spray cans. But I also have an air compressor maybe I should pick up a cheap spray gun for that and buy some cans of paint?

Do I sand down what's on there now or just scuff it with some scotch brite? I want to really layer the paint on so it is somewhat durable. I want it to look good (for a DIY paintjob), not dull and shitty. I would like to be able to wet sand and buff after the paint is cured from baking in the sun for a week or so. I know it's all in the prep so I will be removing what I can and taping everything off nice nice. I got plenty of taping practice from crovos caddy. Laughing Thanks for your comments...
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 6:59 pm

sand all that black off, JR probably never scuffed the blue and don't use rustoleum get a spray gun then get some http://www.duplicolor.com/ color sand after painting it, then put some clear on it for a show car finish


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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:03 pm

OK I missed that you bought that car. I'm quite often out of touch.
When did that happen?
I have no paint knowledge whatsoeva except I'll tell you...IMHO
If you expect it to look good, your going to have to give it to someone that knows WTF to do. Sorry.

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:29 pm

I am not paying anyone to paint this car professionally. The rear passenger quarter is all bondo, the body line is gone and the trunk doesn't line up right. I will never be satisfied with the body of this car unless it has all the body work done because I am picky like that. I will think it looks like crap no matter what. So, I might as well feel proud that I made it look like crap myself instead of putting money into someone else's pocket and still not be happy. cheers

Bobby, that sounds like some good advise. If I am going to clear it, do I shoot it right over the paint or do I sand the paint first? Do I sand in between coats or just dry and spray again? Leave sanding for after the clear is shot? (after prep sanding of course)
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:30 pm

sdstick wrote:
OK I missed that you bought that car. I'm quite often out of touch.
When did that happen?
I have no paint knowledge whatsoeva except I'll tell you...IMHO
If you expect it to look good, your going to have to give it to someone that knows WTF to do. Sorry.

I bought it a few weeks ago. I didn't exactly make it a public event so not that many people have heard.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:36 pm

put like 3 coats on then color sand the black ,then you put the clear on and you can color sand the clear if it needs it.
you will love the lacquer it drys fast and sands easy. cheers

http://www.duplicolor.com/projects/project/paintShopBaseCoat/
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 7:44 pm

I would listen to Bob, or I can paint it for you for peanuts. Wink
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 8:52 pm





http://www.rickwrench.com/index79master.htm?http://www.rickwrench.com/50dollarpaint.html
http://board.moparts.org/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Number=3493382&page=0&fpart=2&vc=1


or have Bill paint it:

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:28 pm

IMPALADAKID wrote:
I would listen to Bob, or I can paint it for you for peanuts. Wink

Salted or unsalted? LOL jk Might have to take you up on that we'll see how ambitious I feel.

Thanks Jim for the links. I actually have read the corvair one a few times. I don't like the idea of rolling the paint on but it seems to do a good job.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 9:42 pm

What kind of paint are we talking? Gloss finish? satin? If satin it's easy, talk to billy.


If you want a semi professional DIY job you are going to have to do some good research online, but someone with your attention to detail could really do a good job. It is really about prep work and proper sanding, both of those are well within your grasp and your attention to detail will make it look nice. A little online research and you can handle it.

I took the task on after sliding my truck bed into a tree offroad and doing some decent damage that cracked the paint. I had a friend pull the dent, then I tackled the paint. It was a first time for me, but after wet sanding I had something I could say I was "proud of" for being on a truck that was usually covered in mud.

I have since painted a couple cars of my own and had good luck. Nothing perfect, but certainty daily driver worthy.

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Thu Aug 26, 2010 10:04 pm

I can paint anything from single stage to tripple stage.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:02 am

You'll have a lot of people tell you that a $50 Rustoleum paint job won't last. Maybe it won't last 15 years like a good bc/cc but you can do one section at a time and touch it up any time you like.

I did a Camaro hood like this and thought it came out reasonably well. Just need to finish it someday. Smile
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:55 am

Scuff it. Shoot it with Rustoleum. One quart will do it. Thin it with acetone. You can even paint it while it's raining. Wink

You'll be in it for less than 20 bucks if you have the tape and newspaper.

It will look the balls.

We could even do it here. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:02 am

toomanytoyz wrote:
Scuff it. Shoot it with Rustoleum. One quart will do it. Thin it with acetone. You can even paint it while it's raining. Wink

You'll be in it for less than 20 bucks if you have the tape and newspaper.

It will look the balls.

We could even do it here. Smile

Might have to take you up on that Bill as I don't have anywhere to do it. I was thinking of doing the deserted parking lot thing you did on morticia with some spray cans. I would like to shoot some clear over it for more of a shine and for durability.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:32 pm

Shiny stuff is for chicks. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 12:49 pm

Well the Camaro is basically Kayla's toy so that would make sense! Her friends think it's a piece of crap because it's not silent and the paint dont shine. Can't help the silent part but I can do something about it's shine.. or lack of.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:25 pm

Tim just wipe off the black paint with aceton and see how bad the color is underneath
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:48 pm

mean ss wrote:
Tim just wipe off the black paint with aceton and see how bad the color is underneath

Not a bad idea, worst case you are out a couple hours and you have a good starting point for a paint job rather than a rough one.

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 1:54 pm

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Ya, maybe Kayla would like this? Just buff off the black

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 2:51 pm

Yeah, that teal color actually didn't look to bad from further away...maybe you could get the black off then cut and buff the teal?
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 8:53 pm

That's actually a pretty good idea. Doesn't look like there's too much paint to get off of there. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 10:26 pm

If it was the original shade of green I would. But, that green is horrendous.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Fri Aug 27, 2010 11:29 pm

GasTT wrote:
If it was the original shade of green I would. But, that green is horrendous.

You sure it's not original? That was a factory color on those around that time, not that bad IMHO...lol
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 1:03 am

The factory green is darker. That is the wrong shade. You can see the original green under the hood and under the trunk.

Please excuse the filth.



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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:49 am

Have Billy paint that thing the green you like. That really is a nice color.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:38 am

Yeah, they had two greens available. Gay green and the forrest green. Why you would paint over the good, rarer one with that gawdawful teal is beyond me! smh

We could probably squirt it the correct green, too. I'd be willing to try that if Billy would. You could probably get it in a single stage paint and we wouldn't even have to clearcoat it. (Thinking time constraints here) I bet you can do that for about 100 bucks in supplies. We'd just have to DA that old spray paint off and then shoot it. Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 12:22 pm

Ain't nothing wrong with teal...I love the color on my truck, it's got metallic and black in it though.



But, that color on the Camaro looks more like a dirty "Now and Later" candy.

Honestly, I hate it when people change the color of the car going way out of their way to make it look nice via professional paint, and then you look in the door jambs and it's the original color. I can't believe they went over the hunter green with that...I suppose it worked because that was a factory color, but why?

That car in the bottom picture looks sick. Great color combo with the tan interior, a friend of mine had a Mustang like that. It's a shame they really aren't making blue and green cars right now that much, supposedly when the economy is good you see a lot of teals and greens in production (mid 90s), but when the economy is in the crapper, you mostly see silver, white, gray, pewter and other neutral stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:12 pm

give me good ole lacquer lol i painted mine back in 74 Sad
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 2:37 pm

Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 4:39 pm

It IS of course the fastest color..... Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 7:58 pm

GasTT wrote:
Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.

Yeah... But what does Kayla want? Wink

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 8:11 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
GasTT wrote:
Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.

Yeah... But what does Kayla want? Wink
To take a nap. affraid
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:35 pm

M.ROSS wrote:
toomanytoyz wrote:
GasTT wrote:
Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.

Yeah... But what does Kayla want? Wink
To take a nap. affraid

ROFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh. Smile

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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sat Aug 28, 2010 10:37 pm

toomanytoyz wrote:
M.ROSS wrote:
toomanytoyz wrote:
GasTT wrote:
Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.

Yeah... But what does Kayla want? Wink
To take a nap. affraid

ROFLMAO! Thanks for the laugh. Smile
I was thinking it, but my little ballz would not allow me to post it. So thanks for the laugh. Arrow


Tim, I can make that car look badass. Arrow
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PostSubject: Re: Need to paint my z28   Sun Aug 29, 2010 3:32 am

M.ROSS wrote:
toomanytoyz wrote:
GasTT wrote:
Sorry guys, not digging the green. I want a gloss black with red Z28 emblems.

Yeah... But what does Kayla want? Wink
To take a nap. affraid

HAHAHA

Kayla likes the black.
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