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96slowss



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PostSubject: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:02 am

so i went out for my bday last night and i was dropping my friends off. my car was idling in his driveway and just shut off.. now it just cranks and cranks. this happened when i got the car and it was the coil. now when the keys forward i cant hear my fuel pump. iam pointed at that right now. just want a second opp...
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:24 am

Look very carefully at the wires going into the coil plugs, they have a habit of deteriorating inside the plastic coating. That would be the first thing I would check.

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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:33 am

alright ill check into that also. iam hoping its not the fuel pump. dont feel like droppin the tank in his driveway 2day
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 9:53 am

Check all your fuses.
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mean ss



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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 10:57 am

check the ground in the trunk by the hinge then run a 12v power wire to the fuel pump prime connector, it's near the fuse box.

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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:00 am

ive always wondered what that wire was near the fuse box.. weres the ground in the trunk?
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 11:01 am

scratch that. i see u wrote by the hinge..
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:36 pm

Bang the bottom of the tank. Many times it will jolt the pump enough to get it to work, and at least get you home. I have never seen a good pump just stop working due to failure. It is a gradual thing. The car would be slow to start, then the pump starts hanging up, and needs a good wack on the bottom of the tank to get it to work. At this point it is tme to replace. Replace the pump, sock, and in tank wire harness with AC Delco only. Anything else could , and offten does fail prematurely.


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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:44 pm

alright tested everything out and it ended up being the pump replaced the pump and sock today. running fine now still have to replace my tank strapes..
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 6:58 pm

IMPALADAKID wrote:
.... Replace the pump, sock, and in tank wire harness .......

Its a good idea to listen to Bill M

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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:44 pm

Mine was an issue where it would just start to randomly die and every time it happened it took longer to restart. Then I got sick of it after the car died pulling into a blind intersection affraid

I replaced it with a carter brand pump since I remember carter used to make good carbs back in the day. Plus it was only $80 and included the universal wiring harness and sock. Never had a problem after that. Although it was a very loud pump I put in Laughing
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 7:58 pm

I wasnt trying to bustem, only point out that Bill is the voice of experience.
The internal tank harness is a well documented weak area in our setup.
Like anything else its your dime & your time.
I used these straps.
They're pretty heavy duty, my orig straps were rusty crap
Had to trim the back a little (rear most on the car) to slip up inside the bolt area so do that 1st if your going to paint them.
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/RST186-1991-1996-BUICK-ROADMASTER-GAS-TANK-STRAPS-_W0QQcmdZViewItemQQhashZitem5d29a0931bQQitemZ400130347803QQptZMotorsQ5fCarQ5fTruckQ5fPartsQ5fAccessories

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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:18 pm

if i had know at the time i would of replaced it but it was in good shape to the eye.. the straps are deff. next they look like crap. ill drop the tank again so i can clean and undercoat the under side of the body and frame in the rear.. its tuff with a daily driver only can do a few things at once...
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:21 pm

I was under my car in 100degree sun using POR15 on those areas.
It started to rain & I had to paint quick before the driveway turned into a river.
I didnt wear gloves & had BLACK (not dirty mind you ) POR15 painted hands for a week
I usually ignore the wear gloves message on the cans but if you use THAT stuff use em...lol

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96BBB 28K 3.42 Bolt-ons
95BBB 100K 3.73 383 New DD...already broke fixt the 4L60E twice
95 Black WB4 Hole...ee...grail
96 Black WB4 No holes in this
95BBB 189K 3.08 Old DD Stolen...by Matt. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:24 pm

thats that stuff is no joke. it taked atleast a week of scrubing to get off ur skin.. been there, done that..
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Fri Jul 30, 2010 9:27 pm

96slowss wrote:
its tuff with a daily driver only can do a few things at once...
I hear that!
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Mon Aug 02, 2010 9:38 am

If you ever go back in here's a good link for calibrating the sender
I really attached so you can see the area of burnt insulation (harness fail)
http://www.impalassforum.com/vBulletin/showthread.php?t=235185

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95BBB 100K 3.73 383 New DD...already broke fixt the 4L60E twice
95 Black WB4 Hole...ee...grail
96 Black WB4 No holes in this
95BBB 189K 3.08 Old DD Stolen...by Matt. Cool
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PostSubject: Re: car died last night   Mon Aug 02, 2010 1:11 pm

My wiring was melted at the tank connector. Right at the point where all the flammable vapors collect. The wiring at the pump was fine. I was almost tempted to just replace the connector but it would have been more work than just replacing the harness.
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