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PostSubject: Rust? What Rust?   Sun Jul 11, 2010 4:48 pm

Stopped up at Doug's place today and threw the wagon on the lift. Undercoated the floor and the frame. Also figured out why the air level doesnt work. Previous owner removed the air shocks and replaced them with regular gas shocks and unplugged the compressor.

This is the end result
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PostSubject: Re: Rust? What Rust?   Sun Jul 11, 2010 5:12 pm

what did you use to undercoat it? (if you have the time a step-by step would be brilliant)
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PostSubject: Re: Rust? What Rust?   Sun Jul 11, 2010 6:13 pm

I used Transtar rubberized undercoating:



As for a step by step, its really easy. First I took a 3M rust/paint wheel and buzzed the floorpans and frame down to get all the crusty/ flaky stuff off everywhere I could. You dont need to get it to shiny clean metal, just smooth. Then I just started spraying. It took me 4 of their 17oz cans to do the wagon. So a sedan should be about the same, if not less. Took me about an hour to do the whole car. Dries in about 10-15 mins. Be warned thou, it will spash back a bit if you are spraying close up. Try to keep the can about a foot+ away. Goggles are a good idea too.
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PostSubject: Rust Issues   Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:07 pm

I plan on doing this to my car this summer but i was thinking about using POR15...i thought i heard that POR15 can only be applied to bare metal though...i dont mind taking it all down to bare metal

any thoughts / ideas

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PostSubject: Re: Rust? What Rust?   Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:12 pm

Waldo617 wrote:
I plan on doing this to my car this summer but i was thinking about using POR15...i thought i heard that POR15 can only be applied to bare metal though...i dont mind taking it all down to bare metal

any thoughts / ideas


I've heard more bad things about POR-15 than good. Al suggested I try using undercoating by SEM. Its a brush on product that goes on really thick, it came out good on his car. I didnt use it to do mine only because it was a week+ wait to get it and the guy at the auto body store cut me a discount for buying a case of the stuff I used. After winter we'll see how good it does. And if you had to strip a caprice down to bare metal youd be there for weeks. Like I said, I took it down to clean, but still brown. I just got rid of the flaky, crusty stuff.
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PostSubject: Re: Rust? What Rust?   Mon Jul 12, 2010 6:23 pm

the best would be to sandblast then prime with ppg self sealing epoxy primer then top coat with Imron
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PostSubject: Re: Rust? What Rust?   Mon Jul 19, 2010 5:16 pm

Good job dude, I have to do that to my Caprice soon, before fall. Wish I had a lift! Laughing

Don't use POR-15, it's overpriced and not as great as it seems. You have to topcoat it because it's sensitive to UV as well.

I just did some stuff with this paint called MasterSeries Rust Sealer by a company in NJ called PM Induistries. It's this silver/aluminum oil paint that you brush on after wire brushing/grinding down the rust. It neutralizes/cuts off oxygen to the rust so it can't spread any further. You can two-coat it, or triple coat if you're not topcoating it. Covers/levels awesome and a little goes a long way. Smile
I just did some stuff in the trunk of my Impala over the weekend. I also did my 14 bolt semi-floater that's being swapped into my Blazuh with it. I ground that all down with a wire wheel, painted it with this, then just went over it with that black Rustoleum spray paint that comes in the taller silver cans.
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