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PostSubject: Fender gap?   Fri Feb 27, 2009 5:48 am

It has been so long since I have owned an ss, and most have altered their cars by now. So I have nothing to go by.

With that said, my question is. Is the gap it my front fender look stock for an ss? It seems it would be tighter. Kinda looks like stock caprice spring hight to me.

I have another full set of low mile stock SS springs that I am thinking of installing to check, but want your opinions before I wast my time.


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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:10 am

dont you have tires with a shorter sidewall than came from the factory?
that can give the look of a larger gap.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:13 am

Looks like stock Caprice springs to me, my wagon had a tighter gap then that with the stock springs in it.
I now have H&R springs that haven't settled yet (it's only been driven about 2 miles since the swap) so I have no idea what kind of gap I am looking at now.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Fri Feb 27, 2009 6:59 am

It does look high. Like Anthony said, are your tires stock height?

Here's a pic of my SS @ stock height with 27" tires.


And here it is when I first bought it. It had limo springs (or something outrageous) in the back.



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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Fri Feb 27, 2009 8:13 pm

laidlow91 wrote:
dont you have tires with a shorter sidewall than came from the factory?
that can give the look of a larger gap.
Actually, the tires are almost the same diameter as stock. 27.2" vs 27".
The tires I have are 235/55/17s.

The only thing that makes any sense is that auto chains like Autozone have one part number for both caprice and impala. And maybe the springs were replaced with caprice springs. Who knows? scratch
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Sat Feb 28, 2009 10:15 am

It almost looks like there is no motor in it Shocked. Looks like you need to cut a coil out or get on the look out for some lowering springs or some stockers.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Sat Mar 07, 2009 9:44 pm

Strange, it does look high in the front. I never had the front springs out of it. However, the original rear springs broke and were changed out a couple years or more ago.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Mon Mar 09, 2009 3:58 pm

One of the things that was a complaint about the Impala SS was how pore the body panels fit.

I had a car appraiser tell me my SS had been hit. I told him he was fully of it. He started pointing out how the panels of the car were not lined up correctly indicating that they had been replaced. NOPE factory.

There are many many variations in the body panels of these cars. You should notice that the 96 panels fit better than the 95 or 94. This was done addressing some of the problems.

Ever notice that the rear axle is not perfect in the rear fender wells. Same issue.

It is really not about springs. If you want your panels to fit better you need to buy some body shims and start resetting the factory screw ups. Remember the chassis is based on the Caprice. NOT A GM SPORTS CAR.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:35 pm

I think he is talking about the gap above the top of his tire in relation with the fender.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Mon Mar 09, 2009 5:39 pm

GasTT wrote:
I think he is talking about the gap above the top of his tire in relation with the fender.
Yeah
Tim is correct. I am just talking springs. The stock ss springs should sit almost an 1.25-1.5" lower than where it sits now in the front. Actually my body gaps are pretty good considering the age, milage and rust.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Tue Mar 10, 2009 3:42 pm

Maybe the front springs are not properly seated. It's possible that at some point the car got new lower balljoints or something and the springs were moved and now don't sit flush in the control arm. It's that thing I keep hearing about aligning the springs with holes in the lower control arm or something.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Tue Mar 10, 2009 5:02 pm

That's a good point. If the springs were ever removed, it's very likely they were not indexed properly when they were re-installed.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Wed Mar 11, 2009 4:50 am

Yeah I need to check the index of my springs when I get home. I hope they are indexed properly, I am not in the mood to pop the ball joints just to rotate my springs. I hope I can just put the spring compressor in the spring and compress the spring enough to rotate it if needed. I noticed that the control arm bushings were very tight when it was put back together, maybe that is why my car was sitting a little higher with shorter springs in it. Maybe my original springs were that wore out too, I was a little confused as to why the car sat slightly higher then it did with the stock springs, I saw pictures of the wagon the springs and shocks came off of and it is the stance I want so maybe the car will have settled by the time I get back, of course it might help if I actually get to drive it too.
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PostSubject: Re: Fender gap?   Wed Mar 11, 2009 5:22 am

I will have to check the indexing. If the ball joints had been replaced and they are not sitting in the pocket correctly, this would explain the hight difference. scratch
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