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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:47 am | |
| - Matt Trakker wrote:
- Cadet57 wrote:
- I need to get a chip fixed. I keep putting it off. I'm going to call JN Phillips or Safelite. Its smaller than a dime so i'm pretty sure its fixable.
If it's on the driver's side of the windshield, you have to get a new one. Another reason why I just have comprehensive fire and theft on my policy, I've even had a power rear window on my 88 Suburban replaced before. lol No, passenger side. They won't fix chips on the drivers side? I wonder why that is... In any event, I have comprehensive too. I think its a MA thing, because I don't know many people who don't. I have a $0 glass deductible. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 1:28 pm | |
| I don't have any of that coverage. All out of pocket for me. My insurance is the "legal minimum plus that part where you can drive out of state" That's why my rates are the lowest out of everyone I know. I never bother with the premium coverages since my car would be cheaper to replace then insure at that point Right now my ratio is $450 to buy the car and insurance is $320 for the year. I'm going to hit up Giant and Safelite and see what they say. Either way nothing is getting done this month since I'm already going to end up in the hole budget wise with the money I'm spending at Dougs, 2 birthdays (girlfriend, mother) and then the parts I've already spent on the car in the last couple weeks. Hopefully the crack just stays put so it doesn't end up in my line of sight between now and when I have the money to fix it. | |
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Waldo617
Posts : 194 Join date : 2010-03-20 Age : 35 Location : Milton
| Subject: Sungate Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:39 pm | |
| Try to find a used "Sungate" windshield. I am also on the hunt for one... It was optional on the Impala SS. Used glass is definitely cheaper than new i would imagine | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 3:40 pm | |
| - Waldo617 wrote:
- Try to find a used "Sungate" windshield. I am also on the hunt for one... It was optional on the Impala SS. Used glass is definitely cheaper than new i would imagine
I've heard good things about those. But also that they screw with ezpass/ fastlane tags. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 4:33 pm | |
| My car isn't compatible with the SS when it comes to body stuff | |
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Matt Trakker
Posts : 5093 Join date : 2009-07-30 Age : 42 Location : Reading, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 5:42 pm | |
| Brad, I'd definitely look into the comprehensive just in case. My insurance on the 93 is about 380 bucks a year, and I live in an area full of people with no green card and no driver's licenses with no paint left on the bumpers of their 1993 Nissan Stanzas, sooooo... Justin, if you can get it done, I'd just try to get a whole new windshield. Chances are the thing is riddled with those small pockmarks, it's nice having a new one...I couldn't believe the difference after it went in! I asked about getting a Sungate (more like "Uh yeah...the car originally had this like...weird purple windshield...so...") but that didn't work. Do they still make those? It's possible the Sungate came on the 90-92 Broughams, Ford had some kind of a similar one called an Instaclear that was on the late 80s/early 90s square Crown Vics and Grand Marquis. | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:21 pm | |
| - Matt Trakker wrote:
- Justin, if you can get it done, I'd just try to get a whole new windshield. Chances are the thing is riddled with those small pockmarks, it's nice having a new one...I couldn't believe the difference after it went in!
Oh, I know. It's funny (well, maybe not that funny...). EVERY car i've owned I've needed to get a windshield replaced. I have terrible luck with them. I had a Grand AM gt that had a crack go straight across it and got bigger every morning when the heater was on. My '96 lumina, formed a random crack, my VW about 3 months after I got it got nailed by a rock falling off a dump truck. And now the Caprice | |
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Pooge
Posts : 1700 Join date : 2009-03-24
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:28 pm | |
| Nothing but good to say about Safelite here. I have had a couple windshields done by them because they are the only ones USAA uses because they are countrywide.
Even had a truck with a rust issue in the canal, the guy took the window out and came the next day to put the window in, in the meantime I fixed the rust and primered it and he listed it for full warranty in the future as though there had never been any rust.
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 07, 2010 9:32 pm | |
| Brad Call Bristol Glass in Attelboro. They are on 152 by the court house. They were always the cheapest around. I got a brand new winsheild installed for under $130 on a S-10 once. |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Thu Apr 08, 2010 1:42 pm | |
| I'll deffinetly look into them when I run around getting quotes. The crack shouldn't spread any more. Over night it managed to reach the edge of the windshield so it's reached the edge on both ends of the crack. The only way it can get worse now is if a second crack comes off of that one in another direction. Or if the crack goes all the way through and a corner of the windshield falls out | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Thu Apr 08, 2010 6:03 pm | |
| Fournier and Coleman in Cumberland RI is cheap. Windshields always cost me around 100-120 | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Thu Apr 08, 2010 7:56 pm | |
| I'll check them out too. That gives me 2 places to check along with giant and phillips. At the very least I have safelite as a benchmark to work from as far as pricing is concerned. Considering the old windshield is beyond repair and leaked a bit before it broke I'm not too worried about getting a perfect windshield at a premium price. I'll take one that keeps out bugs and snow for as low a price as possible and not worry much about the actual quality of the glass or workmanship. I consider a windshield more of a security and convenience item anyway I'll wait till after dougs to get anything done though because they'll need to swap over the inspection sticker and I'd rather the car not be obviously below safe standards On a side note, my new stereo is installed so I have music again. If anyone wants an old delco am/fm for next to nothing their more than welcome. Worked fine and was very easy to program | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Fri Apr 09, 2010 12:03 am | |
| Anyone know off-hand what the boxies weigh in at as compared to the bubbles? I've heard that the boxies are lighter but other people have said that they are heavier. I know the gvwr on the door sticker is heavier than the 95 sticker so that either means the car starts out heavier or the newer ones aren't able to carry as much payload. I'm not looking for exact numbers or anything, just some rough estimates of lighter or heavier. | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Fri Apr 09, 2010 8:44 pm | |
| I'm pretty sure they are 3-400 pounds lighter than the bubbles. Chris McCabe'd know. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed Apr 14, 2010 7:54 pm | |
| Well I just spent the last hour stripping the molding off the car. It looks alot nicer even though it still looks like a pos. Once it gets lowered and some nice wheels on it it'll be a million times better. I have a line on some Irocs for cheap money but I'm not sure if I should pull the trigger on them. I'd rather run a set of snowflakes from a Firebird, but they are hard to come by and tend to be a bit pricey. I may grab the Irocs and just hold onto them if I decide not to use them. I'm sure they won't loose their value too much over the next couple years. We'll see what happens. I tend to be indecisive | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:02 pm | |
| Does anyone have experience with Futura tires? I'm looking at getting a set to put on my new rims and I like the idea of a brand new set of tires in decent sizes for under $400. I've heard some bad reviews on them but most of the complaints are about longevity and snow traction and those won't be an issue for me. Any opinions or comments are welcome. And no I won't spend $100 a piece on tires. It's already a huge step up for me to consider buying tires that aren't used | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:10 pm | |
| I have used the futura tires a few times. They are made by cooper, and fairly decent for the price. Had them on my white 9c1, and my fleetwood. They were the "SUPER SPORT GLS" Nice and grippy, and seem to wear well. |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Mon Apr 26, 2010 8:26 pm | |
| That's what I'm looking at. Futura GLS 215/70 in the front and 255/60 in the back | |
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Guest Guest
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Mon Apr 26, 2010 9:16 pm | |
| And here they are with the black wall out. |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 5:03 pm | |
| Just an update
Yesterday I spent some time putting in some of my new parts and these are my findings:
1. I replaced my hood shocks since they were both blown and made 2 discoveries. The first is that my hood is very heavy. The second is that the edges of it have very jagged metal. 2. I have a couple brake lines that look very delicate. I'm going to need to replumb them this summer I think. 3. Turns out I'll need upper control arms when I do my big buildup. My stockers look like they were rescued from a sunken galleon. 4. My washers either work always or not at all. It's all a matter of how I configure the pins in the pump housing. (I have a thread about it elsewhere)
I was going to do a full tune-up before NED but I'm scared of snapping the plugs off since the engine is pretty ugly and I don't know how long they've been in there. I may wait until next weekend just to keep from interupting my outing with a stranded car.
On the plus side it looks like some basic maintanance had been done over the past couple years since I'm seeing some fairly new rubber bits here and there. | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 8:51 pm | |
| Dude... If you wanna build a mid 80's GM, just go down south and buy one. It'll be just as cheap to procure, but less headaches when it's time for maintenance. Craiglist for NJ and south. One way Amtrak. Rust solved. | |
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96Brougham
Posts : 819 Join date : 2009-02-02 Age : 36 Location : Easton MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 9:06 pm | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 9:09 pm | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 9:53 pm | |
| I paid $450 for mine. Find me a better deal on a boxy that runs as nice as mine and I'd be interested in what comes spewing from the mouth of the mighty "Crovo the Hun" ^ Crovo riding to work back when people cared about his ideas By the way.....nice dreads. Too bad you cut them when you became an old man And next time wake Billy up when the photographer says cheese Now thems fighten werds | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 10:00 pm | |
| Ok, so spin wrenches with rust in your eyes and blood on your knuckles then... | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 10:11 pm | |
| - toomanytoyz wrote:
- Ok, so spin wrenches with rust in your eyes and blood on your knuckles then...
I'm not dainty like you. When I turn wrenches there's rust and blood everywhere It's always my own though so no need to worry about the safety of onlookers I do utter profanities at an elevated level though | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue May 18, 2010 10:13 pm | |
| There is an 82 caprice coupe for sale on CL for $800. It looks pretty clean to me. 68k. I'm even thinking of snatching it up myself and have a completely stock mint running 2-door caprice. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 12:44 pm | |
| When I was looking every coupe I found had rotten floors and needed all new lines for everything. I told myself if I couldn't drive it home I wouldn't consider it, which made it harder to find something cool | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 12:53 pm | |
| I talked to the kid he said come get it for $500. I'm gonna go peep it today. | |
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sdstick
Posts : 4292 Join date : 2009-03-20 Location : Revere, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 1:06 pm | |
| - GasTT wrote:
- I talked to the kid he said come get it for $500. I'm gonna go peep it today.
There's got to be more to THAT story Good luck, if all is as it appears, thats a steal | |
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Cadet57
Posts : 4481 Join date : 2010-03-14 Age : 36 Location : Chicopee, MA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 1:09 pm | |
| - sdstick wrote:
- GasTT wrote:
- I talked to the kid he said come get it for $500. I'm gonna go peep it today.
There's got to be more to THAT story Good luck, if all is as it appears, thats a steal My bet is you can see the asphalt from the drivers side floor. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 1:48 pm | |
| From my experience......the brake lines are blown, the fuel lines are blown, the car hasn't run in 6 months but the kid doesn't know why. He's sure it's something simple though. The car has low miles but everything is worn out as if the speedometer has gone around a couple times. And the floors/trunk has its own ventilation system. The wiring probably has a few gremlins too. | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Wed May 19, 2010 2:38 pm | |
| I have bought close to 20 cars and I have worked in used dealerships my whole life I know what to look for I'm not going to buy a crumbling piece of shit. You guys have to realize I live in the "hood" everyone with this kind of car is a drug dealer and does not care to get every cent the car is worth. This guy has 3 cars in his yard he doesn't drive. I'm not saying the car is perfect, I'm saying give it a chance. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:00 pm | |
| Just an update. Nothing I've done with the car has worked quite right with the exception of the stereo. I spent time the other day doing an oil change and couldn't drain all the old oil out, and the new drain plug didn't fit right. So my oil is mostly changed and the drain plug still leaks. The master is still waiting to get changed. I'm getting some more tools tomorrow in the hopes of unhooking the stripped front line. The wheels are still waiting to get smoothed and painted. I just haven't made time and also am considering grabbing a 5th just to make the dinged up one into a full-size matching spare. The cap and rotor got swapped today, but the plugs and wires are waiting a bit. After the issue I had with the Blazer I'm terrified of snapping the plugs off in the engine. I'm just waiting on a couple items to show up before I tackle the suspension/steering swap. That will be a nightmare project I think. The body work still hasn't been done yet. I'm looking to get out and grab a new door, but just haven't had any money to do it. So for all those that know the car from Newicks, it's exectly the same except for a nicer stereo in it I was also thinking this thread could probably get moved over to the boxy section or I'll just start a new thread over there when I actually accomplish something worth mentioning. | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sat Jul 03, 2010 4:16 pm | |
| That's ok Brad I havn't done shit to my car either. It doesn't help that I have 2 daily drivers to maintain other than the caprice. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Jul 27, 2010 11:25 pm | |
| Update. Replaced the master today whcih wasn't too bad. There's a bunch of air trapped in the system though so the pedal travels 1/3rd of the way before the brakes start to actually grab. The rear bleeders are rotten in place so there's no bleeding the rears. I bled the fronts as best I could, but I'm probably going to need to bleed them again just to make sure. On a related note I'm going to replace the calipers since they're looking like heck at the moment. I was hoping to reuse them during my rebuild but it's just a problem waiting to happen later if I do that. It means more money that I don't really have, but I'd rather not have to do the job again later. I just wish I had the money to do the aluminum calipers and some braided lines instead of cheapy autozone reman units with the stock lines Also in the spring I'll need a new rear. The bleeder screws are rotten into the backing plates and the bolts and everything are all 1 solid block of rot. It'll be impossible to replace anything on it if it breaks because of the corrosion. Even the axle tubes taper quite a bit by the wheel ends from all the corrosion. Oh well. 1 step forward and 37 steps backward | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 12:27 pm | |
| I'm thinking this car is a lost cause. I'm going to decide once and for all if I'll go ahead with my grand plans or send this car off to the scrap yard based around one thing. In a month or so I'll pull the vinyl off the drivers A-pillar and see just how bad the rot is at this point. You can feel the metal bubbling up under the vinyl and I'm pretty sure that's why the windshield cracked in that spot. If the pillar is as bad as I think then the car isn't worth saving as far as I'm concerned. If the pillar is salvagable then I'll fix it and carry on with the rebuild. If anyone wants to help me unwrap the present and decide the cars future then you'll be more than welcome to swing by and swear at it with me | |
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toomanytoyz Club President
Posts : 6876 Join date : 2009-01-20 Age : 47 Location : East Hampstead, NH USA
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:09 pm | |
| - bammax wrote:
- I'm thinking this car is a lost cause.
You came up with that just about as quick as we all did... | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 4:57 pm | |
| I knew it was from the beginning. I just hate to give up on a car with so much potential. It's amazing how many people stop and ask me about it, especially as beat up as it is. And the body only needs to be fixed in about 4 spots (lower quarters, 1 door, 1 pillar) and none of them are major with the possible exception of the pillar. These are the times I wish I had a garage to work in and money for parts | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:19 pm | |
| if you dont have the money to work on a project car then why get one? save your pennies and buy a car that doesnt need as much. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 5:56 pm | |
| When your on social security saving money isn't really a practical option. How long would I need to go without a car if I'm saving upwards of $100 a month and want something that doesn't need any work at all Last 3 cars I've had all cost under $1k. A couple of them lasted alot longer than they should have too If I really cared to I could milk a year or 2 out of this one. I nursed a slipping 4l60e for a couple years in my Cappy and Billy couldn't make it last more than a month | |
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GasTT
Posts : 2675 Join date : 2009-01-19 Age : 36 Location : Treasure Coast, FL
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 6:23 pm | |
| Slipping 4l60e I'd blow that up in no time lol. I'm surprised the trans in my caprice still functions. I beat the shizz out of that car. | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Sun Aug 08, 2010 11:45 pm | |
| - IMPALADAKID wrote:
- Brad
Call Bristol Glass in Attelboro. They are on 152 by the court house. They were always the cheapest around. I got a brand new winsheild installed for under $130 on a S-10 once. I live there and tried getting a very small chip on the passenger side filled in and they couldnt guarentee that they wouldnt smash that side or make it worse while performing the filler process... I wouldnt get anything filled in by them just from that experience... | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Mon Aug 09, 2010 12:16 am | |
| - bammax wrote:
- I'm thinking this car is a lost cause. I'm going to decide once and for all if I'll go ahead with my grand plans or send this car off to the scrap yard based around one thing. In a month or so I'll pull the vinyl off the drivers A-pillar and see just how bad the rot is at this point. You can feel the metal bubbling up under the vinyl and I'm pretty sure that's why the windshield cracked in that spot. If the pillar is as bad as I think then the car isn't worth saving as far as I'm concerned. If the pillar is salvagable then I'll fix it and carry on with the rebuild.
If anyone wants to help me unwrap the present and decide the cars future then you'll be more than welcome to swing by and swear at it with me I finally have weekends off(for now) I could come by and try to lend a helping hand. Mind you I am not that retard kid in high school auto shop that thinks he built a car with his dad when he was 5 years old, and his spray bombed honda is a directed proof positive of that claim... plus I have plenty of tools, access to ALLDATA, and common knowledge of any B body frame setup...even rotted bleeder valves. | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:00 pm | |
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MASShole9C1
Posts : 4294 Join date : 2009-12-16
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:18 pm | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:32 pm | |
| It'll be posted when Laura gets her new car cleaned up and inspected and such. Then we won't need to have the second car as a fall back. So in about a week or so I can promise the car will be a fair bit lighter the next time it sees a scale | |
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MASShole9C1
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| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:35 pm | |
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bammax
Posts : 2301 Join date : 2009-02-22 Age : 42 Location : Mansfield, Ma
| Subject: Re: My new long-term project Tue Aug 17, 2010 10:41 pm | |
| Some old firemans car. The guy she bought it from didn't leave the plate bolts so she had to borrow mine to get it home but she got some new ones tonight. He even left a pencil in the ashtray It's cool though. depending on how long you drive the mileage is either 104k, 880k, 64k, 330k, or error. If it were me I'd just keep it at 64k, but it's not my car The book value is based on "mileage unknown" which saved a bit on tax, which worked out really well since we were short on cash and the registry doesn't take credit | |
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MASShole9C1
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